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1. exabri+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-27 14:27:51
Tangent, but related:

My dad is restoring a 1969 MG Midget. The right turn signal stopped working. Using nothing more than a voltmeter, I found a disconnected wire and a short to the frame.

I replaced the entire length of wire that was failing with $3 worth of wire, solder, and heat shrink tubing.

The lesson here is repairability and simplicity.

We’re constantly lectured to be “environmentally aware” by companies that no longer ensure their products will last a lifetime. There is 0 reason a modern phone couldn’t be used for the rest of your life. My Brother printer is nearing 12 years and is still on the same damn print cartridge. My Neato robotics vacuum has had countless parts replaced and is about the same age.

If you truly want to be a good steward of the earth, stop demanding/consuming latest and greatest, endless product and UI refreshes, and instead demand 30+ years out of a product (with small repairs).

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2. einpok+H2[view] [source] 2023-11-27 14:42:42
>>exabri+(OP)
> stop demanding ... and instead demand ...

As if large corporations base their business strategy on ethically/environmentally-minded consumer demands. At most they will propagandize or triangulate their engineering approach slightly - just enough for the media cycle to turn to some other issue. Gotta make those quarterly profits stand out!

Also - if you haven't changed a printer cartridge in 12 years than you are printing very little (which is fine, but it's not a typical use-case by which to evaluate longevity).

Other than that, definitely agree :-)

3. fsflov+83[view] [source] 2023-11-27 14:45:15
>>exabri+(OP)
> There is 0 reason a modern phone couldn’t be used for the rest of your life.

This is the reason I chose GNU/Linux phone Librem 5.

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4. I_Am_N+W7[view] [source] 2023-11-27 15:07:11
>>exabri+(OP)
A tangent to add to your tangent

>There is 0 reason a modern phone couldn’t be used for the rest of your life.

At some point we must reach peak tech. In the Elite: Dangerous universe, there are quite a few ships you can use, but the majority of them are designs that are hundreds of years old. They are modular spaceships, of course, so they have received upgraded technology as time has gone on, but there are some quirky little ships flying around.

Compared to phones though, we'd need to get carriers to guarantee their old networks stay functional so old cellular radios will still function. Maybe when tech advances enough we CAN have a modular phone it will be less of a concern.

5. avalys+L01[view] [source] 2023-11-27 18:51:30
>>exabri+(OP)
Your 1969 MG Midget is enormously polluting and a death trap in a crash. The turn signal is small and dim and barely visible to other motorists in bright sunlight. The ride sucks and the reason it’s easy to repair is there’s almost no interior structure or noise or thermal insulation to remove.

Over a 200,000 mile design lifetime, a modern car is way more reliable and way less work to repair than your MG Midget (by virtue of not breaking as often in the first place). Yes, today’s cars aren’t designed to be collector items that will sit and rot in a barn not being driven and get easily restored by amateurs in 50 years, but why should they be?

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6. AirMax+941[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 19:05:27
>>avalys+L01
Is it a death trap? Totally. But you could put a cat on it and dramatically reduce emissions. Consider also that initially producing a car is a major contributor to the environmental impact of a car.
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7. vGPU+ug1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 20:03:51
>>avalys+L01
Give it a rest. If you actually want to make an impact on pollution, stop buying cheap Chinese junk and campaign for a nuclear power plant.
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8. Walter+Pj1[view] [source] 2023-11-27 20:18:41
>>exabri+(OP)
I used to work as an electronics technician.

To do some wiring that'll be bulletproof and last:

1. get wiring rated for under-the-hood heat (the wiring sold at auto parts stores is no good for that)

2. get crimp-on connectors

3. cut the plastic off the crimp-ons

4. put heat shrink tubing on the wire, well away from the end

5. crimp the connector on

6. solder the crimp joint using a thermostat controlled soldering iron

7. move the heat shrink tubing over the joint, and heat it with a bic cigarette lighter to shrink it on

8. voila!

P.S. Crimped connections don't last. After about a year, they'll work loose a bit from vibration, and corrosion will creep in, and you'll get a loose connection that is very frustrating to find. Soldering it prevents that from happening.

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9. HWR_14+zp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 20:45:58
>>avalys+L01
The reason it's easy to repair seems to be that the wire is accessible. That turns out to have nothing to do with LED vs. incandescent signals or the lack of a catalytic converter. It probably has nothing to do with crumple zones either. It may have something to do with the lack of cabin insulation, but I honestly doubt it.

But the point being made about repairability (and simplicity) seems good.

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10. AirMax+xs1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 20:59:39
>>Walter+Pj1
I’m in automotive tech school right now and the advice in the context of the automotive sector (not electronics) is to always crimp where you can, and only solder if you absolutely must.
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11. Castei+Rs1[view] [source] 2023-11-27 21:01:03
>>exabri+(OP)
> My dad is restoring a 1969 MG Midget. The right turn signal stopped working. Using nothing more than a voltmeter, I found a disconnected wire and a short to the frame. I replaced the entire length of wire that was failing with $3 worth of wire, solder, and heat shrink tubing.

I want to see EVs/plug-in hybrids with similar levels of simplicity wherever possible. Virtually all vehicles in the US nowadays are completely overloaded with unnecessary sensors/electronics that are ripe for failure.

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12. double+Wu1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:11:23
>>Walter+Pj1
Soldering a crimp is not good practice, a correctly done crimp will not come loose (OEM connections are mostly crimped), and you risk making a brittle section if the solder wicks past the crimp.
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13. simonh+pw1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:17:18
>>fsflov+83
It’d better have long term support, some customers had to wait 4 years from ordering to get one.
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14. exabri+Ty1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:27:49
>>avalys+L01
You missed the entire point of what I wrote.
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15. Walter+fz1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:28:47
>>double+Wu1
A correctly done crimp uses enough force to form a cold weld. Unfortunately, without a calibrated machine to do it, it is pretty hard to determine if enough crimping force has been applied. Without the cold weld, corrosion will compromise the joint after a year or so. The solder will also prevent moisture from getting into the joint.

You're right about not letting the solder wick up past the connector. But that's not an issue if the wire is properly supported with a clamp.

My experience with crimps is electrical gremlins, with soldered crimps, no trouble at all.

OEM crimps also come with a molded housing designed to keep out moisture (and corrosion) and provide mechanical support for the joint. The crimp-on connectors at the auto parts store are vastly inferior.

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16. akira2+sA1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:33:21
>>avalys+L01
> a modern car is way more reliable and way less work to repair than your MG Midget

Modern cars are often more work to repair. They're not particularly modular, and to the extent that they are, they often bury one module under several layers of others. It requires you to disconnect and move working parts and assemblies to uncover the broken one.

Modern cars also use replaceable assemblies to speed up repairs, but it also means that even for small problems like a damaged wire in a harness, you often have to rip out the entire system it is "inside" of and replace it completely. The manufacturer has tons of ways of requiring you to "over replace" parts like this on a modern vehicle.

> but why should they be?

That's not an excuse to make them as disposable as they've become. You can't use "the climate" to blindly turn this into a black and white issue.

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17. Walter+uA1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:33:25
>>AirMax+xs1
Crimping is quick and easy. My recommendation is crimp and solder, not just solder. Solder by itself isn't mechanically strong enough.
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18. User23+0C1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:40:38
>>avalys+L01
Using climate change as justification for enshittification is a good way to feed denialist narratives.
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19. topspi+uD1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:47:52
>>Walter+fz1
> without a calibrated machine

That's called a crimping tool. They grow on trees. They're designed to achieve the correct amount of force to make a gas tight, permanent connection without destroying the contacts. All you need to do is select the correct connectors for the wire size you're dealing with and squeeze it.

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20. Walter+yF1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:58:39
>>topspi+uD1
Good luck with that. There are all kinds of crimping tools.

I watched a professional cable installer once crimp the coax F connectors on. I got the manufacturer and model number of it. It's from an outfit that only sold to professionals, and cost about $200. Since I was going to pull all the coax myself in my house, it was worth the money and I haven't had trouble with the results. The consumer grade crimping tools from the hardware store are terrible.

It's the same story with wirewrap tools.

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21. gpm+KF1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:59:20
>>AirMax+941
> Consider also that initially producing a car is a major contributor to the environmental impact of a car.

Not if you drive it very much/for very long. See this graph [1] (from this article [2]) for instance. Note that they're evenly diving 173,151 miles across the 13 "years" (and don't ask me why they decided to make the x-axis "years").

And that's with a modern fuel efficient car, not some ancient one.

[1] https://graphics.reuters.com/ELECTRIC-VEHICLES/EMISSIONS/rlg...

[2] https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-d...

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22. m463+KI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:16:18
>>avalys+L01
I think a better example might be a similar era john deere tractor. It was designed to replace expensive human labor and was designed to be simple and to be fixed.

I also wonder about the original humvee, which I think was designed to be "user" serviced in the field.

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23. winrid+QI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:16:45
>>Walter+Pj1
Soldered connections are a no go in automotive. Crimped is way tougher for vibrations. Corrosion shouldn't be getting in with heat shrink or a good connector.
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24. Walter+yL1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:31:11
>>winrid+QI1
I wrote crimp and solder. Not solder.

Take a look at these:

https://www.amazon.com/Qibaok-Connectors-Insulated-Electrica...

Crimp a wire in it. Look at it from the connector side. You'll see the bare conductor inside the connector. That's where the moisture gets in. Heat shrink tubing won't shrink enough to cover that. Wicking solder into it will seal it against moisture and corrosion.

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25. kazina+SL1[view] [source] 2023-11-27 22:33:08
>>exabri+(OP)
> $3 worth of wire, solder, and heat shrink tubing

I don't understand how with those three things, you are able to renew the blinker service subscription.

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26. kazina+eM1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:34:23
>>avalys+L01
Most modern cars will be in the landfill while that 1969 MG is still running.

The disposability has to be factored into the environmental impact.

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27. SlickN+vM1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:35:47
>>Walter+Pj1
Soldering crimp connectors (that are not otherwise designed for it) will reduce the flexibility of the wire and introduce stress concentrations. Those stress concentrations will reduce the fatigue life of the harness.
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28. fooker+SM1[view] [source] 2023-11-27 22:37:16
>>exabri+(OP)
>There is 0 reason a modern phone couldn’t be used for the rest of your life.

A phone, yes. A 'modern' phone conforming to our 'modern' expectations, no.

It would have to be significantly larger, less performant, and have a worse screen for it to last even ten years.

To make it repairable you'd have to make sure individual chips and capacitors are swappable, which costs ~2x power draw compared to a SOC.

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29. cactac+7N1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:38:38
>>Walter+Pj1
I'm curious to know more about how much vibration your solder joints see. I agree that most crimped connections tend to be sub-par but in my experience that is due to either bad tools, bad materials or both. Personally I use Wagos if waterproofing and/or space isn't a concern, marine grade crimp connections (and the proper tools) if it is.
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30. cactac+HN1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:40:17
>>Walter+yL1
Yup, and those are garbage - for the reasons you've identified. Marine grade or bust. Look I'm no fan of crimps but you're giving terrible advice here.
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31. iterat+jP1[view] [source] 2023-11-27 22:48:01
>>exabri+(OP)
My father gifted me 35 year old speakers he had stored in his attic.

I installed them on an old Marantz amp, which is also connected to my (new) TV. As he visited me, he couldn't believe the incredible sound coming from his own speakers. My friends are shocked by it too, thinking I'm some audio buff that invested 20K.

My dad regretted the gift, went to buy the same amp yet with new speakers. Various sets of it, and failed to come close to the ancient set.

I'm not sure what exactly was innovated in 35 years of audio, but my guess would be costs, not quality.

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32. Turska+KP1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 22:49:48
>>iterat+jP1
Something that is frequently underestimated when it comes to the sound of speakers is... the rest of the room. Room acoustics make a huge difference, and if your room isn't set up right then high quality equipment is just a waste of money.
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33. exabri+kT1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 23:09:25
>>iterat+jP1
I too had a similar experience... My dad had to liquidate his old HiFi set as kids were growing up, but after the nest was empty I gave him the old towers back!

We built a set of these: https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/zd... which are a throwback to the old HiFi sets of the 70s-80s. I _really_ like the reference sound of this set. The only thing they don't really do is the sub-sonic punch that action movies require, but that's probably ok for apartment living with neighbors.

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34. exabri+AT1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 23:10:15
>>fooker+SM1
>less performant

Only because the code we write is crappier

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35. Walter+cY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 23:39:58
>>cactac+HN1
> you're giving terrible advice here

Never had trouble with the completed soldered/crimped connections for decades. I use them in my car. With crimp-only, it's only a matter of time till I get erratic connects. It's particularly irritating with the stereo, as the speakers go in and out or suffer the crackling with a loose connection.

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36. Walter+DY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 23:42:55
>>SlickN+vM1
As I mentioned, the wire needs to be properly supported, then there won't be any stress risers. I've never had one crack and fail on me.
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37. Walter+d02[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 23:51:09
>>cactac+7N1
Stuff attached to the engine for heat and vibration. The doors and trunk for moisture.

Interestingly, the speaker cable connections in the house are a nuisance with bad connections. Spring loaded connectors, even banana plugs, are just plain unreliable. Solder finally fixed them for good. (I'll solder on connectors, and then use a terminal strip.)

For the car, I also use rather expensive high grade stranded wire. I've been very happy with the results - the extra money pays off in time saved not having to repair them.

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38. pxx+542[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 00:15:05
>>Walter+yL1
A crimped and soldered connection is weaker than a properly-crimped cold-welded connection.

Solder will fill any voids in your contact, causing the bond to break as your entire assembly heats and cools.

Solder will also wick up the strands, making the resultant wire brittle.

Moisture ingress can be solved with the correct wrapping. After all, the extruded PVC insulation on the wire in the first place shrunk to fit it, right?

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39. SlickN+Y62[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 00:34:32
>>Walter+DY1
> I've never had one crack and fail on me.

Well, I can't argue with that.

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40. iterat+g72[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 00:36:47
>>Turska+KP1
True. I'm lucky to have a perfectly symmetrical square living room with great acoustics. Well, I think that's beneficial. I have no idea really, but it does sound good.

And I'm quite sensitive to acoustics. In a lot of modern "minimalist" homes I'm upset by the sound bouncing around endlessly, sometimes it's so bad I can barely hear conversations.

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41. winrid+zb2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 01:10:48
>>Walter+yL1
Yeah I see your issue. You're not using the right connectors.

https://www.amazon.com/JRready-Connector-Waterproof-Electric...

The cheaper knock offs can work well, too.

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42. tourma+gd2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 01:25:54
>>User23+0C1
Not to mention the irony that they use climate change to support polluting the environment with waste.
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43. froggi+Ie2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 01:39:15
>>kazina+eM1
> Most modern cars will be in the landfill while that 1969 MG is still running.

Most MGs have been in the landfill for decades. It wouldn't be a surprise if this car had been sitting on blocks in a garage for decades. It's disingenuous to imply this car is still running for any reason other than because it has an owner that both wants to restore it and has the ability to do so.

I suspect once its restored there's a fair chance that it'll park in a proper garage and be driven a couple of times a month on nice days during summer until the days start cooling off and it gets stored for winter.

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44. fooker+Lr2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 03:32:09
>>Walter+Pj1
> used to work

Were you fired for soldering crimp connectors?

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45. freeta+8t2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 03:44:54
>>avalys+L01
>modern car is way more reliable and way less work to repair than your MG Midget

My current car, which cannot be jumpstarted since it has a 48v battery for ignition and driving, and has dash-breaking OTA updates requiring a visit to the dealer or a proprietary 1200 usd software, and can be easy stolen by unplugging a headlight and feeding data into the common bus, would disagree.

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46. dang+QD2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 05:43:23
>>vGPU+ug1
Could you please stop posting swipes and personal attacks (e.g. >>38415461 )? You've been doing it repeatedly, unfortunately, and it's against the site guidelines. You can make your substantive points without any of that, so please do.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

47. shreys+vH2[view] [source] 2023-11-28 06:21:35
>>exabri+(OP)
Looking for headphones that'll last me that long. Any recs?
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48. stefan+TI2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 06:37:29
>>AirMax+941
Last I calculated this, a new car emits in the range of 8-15 tonnes CO2e (lower range for gas cars, upper for some EVs before they started guaranteeing renewable energy in production).

Driving emissions numbers I remember off the top of my head are Swedish averages, around 2.5 tonnes CO2e per year (15000 km/year). This is averages for the Swedish car fleet, which tend to be smaller models and more modern than many countries.

So: sure, production emissions are a big factor, but driving the car can easily win the efficiency savings back in a fraction of the car’s lifetime.

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49. 3seash+dJ2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 06:41:22
>>avalys+L01
Wrong. 2/3of a cars pollution are produced in production. The fuel consumption, polluting as it is, needs 20+years to catch up to the gestation environment damage of a car. Perverse as it sounds, old rusty clunkers are more environmental friendly.
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50. wyclif+UP2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 08:05:52
>>Walter+d02
I appreciate your taking the time to write these comments. I am just getting into electronics, so I find them instructive. Can you recommend any books that will help an amateur get up to speed on how to wire things the right way and to do clean, solid work?
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51. guenth+SS2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 08:41:07
>>AirMax+941
Not sure about that. Some actual engineer may speak up, but it's my understanding that old engines were often run 'rich' and catalytic converters are somewhat fragile and won't last long if too much unburned fuel enters them.
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52. Walter+MT2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 08:51:06
>>pxx+542
The brittleness doesn't matter if the wire is supported to where the solder ends. I don't let it wick up much - I introduce the solder at the cut end, just enough to solder the joint.

I have electronic equipment in nearly continuous use for 40 years. Daily heat/cool cycling. No solder breaks in it.

It seems that this debate is an old one:

https://www.linkedin.com/advice/0/what-pros-cons-soldering-v...

https://blog.peigenesis.com/soldering-vs-crimping-advantages...

https://www.sig4cai.com/soldering-or-crimping-which-is-bette...

P.S. I'm pretty good with soldering, since I've done it professionally, so the disadvantages of a poorly soldered joint don't apply.

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53. Walter+HU2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 08:58:25
>>winrid+zb2
I haven't seen those before, they look interesting. Thanks for the pointer!

My crimped and soldered ones work fine, though, and cost basically nothing.

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54. iudqno+013[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 09:58:45
>>3seash+dJ2
The numbers are a lot more complex than that. 2/3 is a plausible but not incontrovertible number for cars manufactured now. It's reasonable to assume the ratio is significantly worse for older cars.
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55. fuzzfa+R33[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 10:32:55
>>exabri+Ty1
Plus the MG is not just considered a collector's item today, it was originally designed as a pleasure craft, not exclusively for transportation.
56. Kronis+d73[view] [source] 2023-11-28 11:09:04
>>exabri+(OP)
> There is 0 reason a modern phone couldn’t be used for the rest of your life.

Even with replaceable batteries, there's still https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law

It would be nice if we had mobile and desktop OSes that didn't get increasingly bloated with time, slowed down, were abandoned by the vendors and were messy in plethora of other ways.

My Android phone doesn't get security updates by the manufacturer, just a few years after the release, which is horrible in the case of RCEs (like the WebP one). I can't install a newer version or a custom ROM because of a locked down bootloader (without exploits) and even then drivers are a big issue. Some of my older hardware wouldn't even be compatible with desktop OSes like Windows 11 because of the whole TPM debacle.

Other than that, digging up my old Android phone with Android 2.1 on it, or maybe my old E8400 CPU from 2008 would yield really bad experience in both cases. Could devices from over a decade ago be viable choices, if the software didn't get exponentially more wasteful? Perhaps, but that's not the reality that we live in, neither for desktop PCs, nor phones.

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57. grantc+G83[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 11:26:43
>>3seash+dJ2
This sibling comment (>>38439016 ) and google searches do not support your numbers - the CO2 impact of producing a car is roughly equivalent to one year's use, both are give-or-take 5 metric tons.
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58. moberl+aq3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 14:01:14
>>Castei+Rs1
After watching the Edison Motors company build a hybrid electric logging truck prototype on YouTube it made me quite disappointed there don't seem to be other classes of vehicle being made in a similar user repairable manner. Of course, passenger vehicles do have some additional regulated safety requirements compared to a heavy vocational truck but perhaps someone will try to figure it out.
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59. epicid+8D3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 15:11:49
>>shreys+vH2
Repairability and build simplicity were a big factor for me purchasing the Meze 99 Classics. I can't say how long they'll end up lasting, but you can visibly see almost every screw in them. Even if I can't find Meze-branded replacement parts for the rest of my life, they seem modular and simple enough that I could probably at least limp them along for a LONG time.

They aren't cheap, but they are also some of the best headphones I've ever personally used. I don't make any claims of being an "audiophile" or whatever, but they're like the headphone equivalent of using my Kali LP-6 monitors.

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60. milesv+vy4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 19:30:42
>>SlickN+vM1
I've been under the impression that soldering crimped connections was a general no-no as well, since it doesn't actually help a good crimp with cold welds, and does make any stranded wire more likely to break where the solder stops.

I've studied this a little since it effects my work, but I don't claim to be an EE. Sadly, I'm not finding any definitive authorities on the subject with a quick googling, though all the top hits tend to agree with the sentiment of not soldering crimped connections.

This was a short article that I ran across, dealing with the topic. As usual, the comments on hackaday are all over the place, but I still find them useful.

https://hackaday.com/2017/02/09/good-in-a-pinch-the-physics-...

Interestingly, I thought nasa banned soldering crimped connections, but as far as I can tell, rereading this doc now with a quick skim for the string crimp, they only ban crimping tinned connections.

https://s3vi.ndc.nasa.gov/ssri-kb/static/resources/nasa-std-...

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61. tribaa+VX4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 21:39:35
>>3seash+dJ2
The EPA seems to disagree with your numbers: https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
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62. graeme+Ve6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-29 07:26:53
>>stefan+TI2
Yes, but not everyone drives an average amount. I drive about a third of that.

On the other hand I also know people who drive a multiple of that.

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63. ecef9-+Dl6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-29 08:37:40
>>froggi+Ie2
and you can restore it. I use a leased company car, electric. My boss wanted to buy it first, but (according to him) the battery is irreplaceable. What ever that means.
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64. winrid+sJ7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-29 17:32:22
>>Walter+HU2
They might. They're just more work to get the same seal IMO. Also newer cars have dozens of wires in one loom :)
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