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1. orwin+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-27 11:02:25
Yes, it concentrate/centralize power. If you want a new aristocracy, continue buybacks until a share is worth so much, people will start to buy share fractions, with all the shit and overhead that'll bring.
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2. konsch+m[view] [source] 2023-11-27 11:06:46
>>orwin+(OP)
Companies do share splits all the time.

Dividends also give money to people who have shares.

There is not difference beteeen these two mechanisms in who gets the money.

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3. disgru+X1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 11:19:51
>>konsch+m
Dividends are better because you don't have to sell to realize the gains. I'd love to own Google and Facebook and get dividends regularly.
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4. s1arti+23[view] [source] 2023-11-27 11:27:08
>>orwin+(OP)
>people will start to buy share fractions, with all the shit and overhead that'll bring.

Which is to say, very little overhead

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5. qwytw+z6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 11:59:38
>>disgru+X1
How is that better? With buybacks if I want to reinvest I don't have to pay taxes on them and if I want to realize the gains I can decide when to do that myself (of course seem more like an issue in Europe and with companies which only payout yearly).
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6. disgru+ds[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 14:29:59
>>qwytw+z6
Because it encourages longer-term ownership, and gives shareholders a stake in the future cash flows of the business.

Like I said, it's the tax treatment that basically stopped growth companies giving dividends. I think that we should change said tax treatment and also make buybacks illegal but that's a bit more controversial.

In any case, for both G and FB, they'd need to do buybacks anyway because of their employee share programs.

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7. konsch+RZ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:24:05
>>disgru+ds
Buybacks have the same effect of encouraging long-term ownership.

Given a certain amount of money, spending it on stock buybacks vs spending it on dividends returns the same amount of money to each HOLDING shareholder.

In one case, they receive a small sum. In the other case, the value of their stock goes up.

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