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1. fsckbo+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:19:28
if hot shot startup folks don't want to work there, why would they even go there? If you're flat broke, you need a job; they're not flat broke, they don't need a job. The deal at MS is worth it, or it's not, it's not something they need to decide over the course of a weekend... unless it's what they were already not being candid about.
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2. sekai+S[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:22:21
>>fsckbo+(OP)
> if hot shot startup folks don't want to work there, why would they even go there

MSFT may have offered them a lucrative offer to join (for the time being) in order to alleviate the potential stock dump.

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3. akmari+a1[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:23:42
>>fsckbo+(OP)
Microsoft have access to the gold mine and with a bit of time Altman can get enough gold to open a jewelry business
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4. estoma+32[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:28:43
>>akmari+a1
How? It's not like he expect to just walk out of there with models or data?
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5. akmari+L2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:31:43
>>estoma+32
If it’s under Microsoft’s umbrella - sure he can
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6. tsunam+P3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:36:49
>>sekai+S
Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation
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7. gzer0+j5[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:42:17
>>fsckbo+(OP)
It is the only way they can continue the work they have already contributed at OpenAI. Otherwise, it would mean they spend months or up to a year training their own model which in this arms race isn't feasible with viable competitors like Anthropic closing the gap quickly. This was the only way forward. I'm sure Sam Altman + Greg were offered an incredibly lucrative deal and autonomy.
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8. fsckbo+R9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 09:05:18
>>tsunam+P3
>Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation

i totally agree, except stupid-lucrative is still in the equation, like Elon Musk rich, not because of the money, but because it says "my electric cars did more to stop global warming than anything you've done"

whether this round of AI turns into AGI doesn't precisely matter, it's on the way and it's going to be big, who wouldn't want their name attached to it.

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9. fsckbo+kh[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 09:49:55
>>gzer0+j5
it's been 2 days, they haven't even heard all the possible offers. Microsoft hasn't offered anybody autonomy since billg granted it to himself. Even Myhyrvold never did anything autonomous till he resigned and wrote a cookbook. The closest thing to autonomous in Microsoft was neilk breathing enough new life into 16bit Windows to get them to abandon OS/2
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