zlacker

[parent] [thread] 5 comments
1. Joeri+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:08:11
This might turn out to be a lot more stable structure long term: the commercialization of AI under Microsoft's brand, with Microsoft's resources, and the deep research into advanced AI under OpenAI. This could shield the research division of OpenAI from undue pressure from the product side, in a way that it probably couldn't when everything was under one roof.
replies(2): >>skygaz+13 >>gtirlo+P9
2. skygaz+13[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:20:12
>>Joeri+(OP)
Ugh. I’m not keen on AGI being an eventual Microsoft product, or after this circus, even the hangers on at Open AI. Hope it’s still decades off and this all is a silly side show footnote.
3. gtirlo+P9[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:50:41
>>Joeri+(OP)
I find your theory more plausible. Microsoft, Google and Amazon were lagging in AI. You can simply look at their voice assistants for an example. That's why they started investing billions in OpenAI and other think tanks in this space. Now capital turns things around to be as they should (from their perspective) and reacquires control.

Anthropic is probably next in line.

replies(1): >>Mentlo+cF
◧◩
4. Mentlo+cF[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 12:16:18
>>gtirlo+P9
MS/G/A didn’t put this into voice assistants not because they don’t have it, but because it doesn’t scale to fit the commercials at the moment. Google invented transformers and Deepmind had GPT scale LLM’s at least a year before CGPT came out.

Altman just rushed everyone’s hand by publishing it into the world at cost

replies(1): >>gtirlo+TG
◧◩◪
5. gtirlo+TG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 12:28:26
>>Mentlo+cF
"just" is an understatement.

My friends and family had an awful opinion of AI in general because it was the voice assistants were sold to them as the best example of AI. That changed with ChatGPT.

Google invented really useful AI but failed to deliver. OpenAI did so in record time. Now it's Google that's playing catching up with the technology they invented themselves, ironically.

But my comment applies more to Microsoft and Amazon, tbh.

replies(1): >>Mentlo+SA2
◧◩◪◨
6. Mentlo+SA2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 20:38:49
>>gtirlo+TG
This wasn’t a result of product genius in this case - OAI just didn’t have the regulatory and PR oversight that big tech has - I know for a fact Meta and Google had CGPT equivalent models ready but couldn’t launch them as they’d get rightfully berated for the model being racist or hallucinating. Things OpenAI avoided because it’s a startup non-profit.

And OAI delivered with enormous per-user cost that doesn’t scale - in an app that is a showcase and doesn’t really have latency requirements as people understand it’s a prototype.

And the vas majority of people play with CGPT, they don’t use it for anything useful. Incidental examples of friends and family of tech workers to the side.

[go to top]