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1. chimne+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 07:10:49
Isn't this expected? Nearly everyone who joined post ChatGPT was primarily financially motivated. What is more interesting is how many of the core research team stays.
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2. quiett+P1[view] [source] 2023-11-20 07:21:14
>>chimne+(OP)
This. Very accurate. At the end of they day this is a battle between academics and capitalists and what they stand for. We generally know how this typically goes…
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3. ah765+Q2[view] [source] 2023-11-20 07:28:27
>>chimne+(OP)
This is actually pretty surprising to me, since a financially motivated person would normally wait until a better deal, and just collect their paycheck in the meantime.

There's also no guarantee that Altman will really start a new company, or be able to collect funding to hire everyone quickly. I wonder if these people are just very loyal to Sam.

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4. irrati+33[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 07:30:07
>>quiett+P1
The capitalists run it into the ground while the academics stand around confused asking each other what happened?
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5. MattGa+X3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 07:37:06
>>ah765+Q2
> This is actually pretty surprising to me, since a financially motivated person would normally wait until a better deal, and just collect their paycheck in the meantime.

I imagine you need to signal that you want in on the deal by departing. Get founder equity.

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6. simsey+o4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 07:39:35
>>quiett+P1
I don't see many academics indulge in sensationalist doomsaying. That's the real difference here. SETI wouldn't and couldn't seek grants by proposing to contact murderous aliens.

I think academics have a general faith in goodwill of intelligence.Benevolence may be a convergent phenomenon. Maybe the mechanisms of reason themselves require empathy and goodness

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7. hurrye+I4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 07:41:50
>>ah765+Q2
Or they could be loyal to the e/acc cult.
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8. sudosy+P4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 07:42:48
>>simsey+o4
Huh? There's plenty of AI doomerism amongst academics, see Bengio, Hinton, etc...
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9. simsey+d8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:02:28
>>sudosy+P4
Hinton makes cliched statements as if he's not given much thought to safety but feels obliged for whatever reason
10. exizt8+R8[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:05:33
>>chimne+(OP)
How do you know that? Maybe they wanted to ship AI products at an unprecedented speed at the most prestigious AI company in the world.
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11. jatins+9o[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 09:18:13
>>MattGa+X3
Even if he had started a new company, there was no way a dozen employees were getting founder equity for showing loyalty
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