>>himara+(OP)
https://archive.is/hLl2l

>>himara+(OP)
Related ongoing thread:

OpenAI investors try to get Sam Altman back as CEO after sudden firing - >>38326834 - Nov 2023 (73 comments)

>>himara+(OP)
So the discussions are definitely happening it seems: https://twitter.com/sama/status/1726345564059832609

>>d_sem+43
seems he had a side hustle: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-19/altman-so...

>>jimsim+R1
https://archive.ph/hLl2l

>>janeje+B7
Bonus perspective: https://twitter.com/jasonkwon/status/1726348678116548979

>>buggle+Gd
Ilya is not a champion of open source: "We were wrong. Flat out, we were wrong. If you believe, as we do, that at some point, AI — AGI — is going to be extremely, unbelievably potent, then it just does not make sense to open-source. It is a bad idea... I fully expect that in a few years it’s going to be completely obvious to everyone that open-sourcing AI is just not wise."

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/15/23640180/openai-gpt-4-lau...

>>jug+in
> Microsoft has certain rights to OpenAI’s intellectual property so if their relationship were to break down, Microsoft would still be able to run OpenAI’s current models on its servers.

https://archive.is/jUJEH

>>thepas+jn
What makes you think it is 'his' work and not theirs? I remember when OpenAI was just a joke compared to Deepmind. The turning point (as I remember) was when they used [1] deep reinforcement learning on dota2. clearly iyla (also one of the authors) contributed, but so did many others on the team I assume?

[1]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1912.06680.pdf

>>chucke+cn
Which is unusual since it's been around since 1956:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_artificial_intellig...

"The field of AI research was founded at a workshop held on the campus of Dartmouth College, USA during the summer of 1956."

>>himara+(OP)
As of this moment the website still says under: https://openai.com/our-structure

Our board "OpenAI is governed by the board of the OpenAI Nonprofit, comprised of OpenAI Global, LLC employees Greg Brockman (Chairman & President), Ilya Sutskever (Chief Scientist), and Sam Altman (CEO), and non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner."

There is also a prominent red notice that seems made for somebody in Seattle...

IMPORTANT

*Investing in OpenAI Global, LLC is a *high-risk investment*

*Investors could lose their capital contribution and not see any return*

*It would be wise to view an investment in OpenAI Global,LLC in the spirit of a donation, with the understanding that it may be difficult to know what role money will play in a post-AGI world*

I am going to grab more popcorn...

>>static+Mq
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/24/musks-twitter-has-been-sued-...

He's pretty bad at honoring contracts too

>>malfis+4r
Yeah man, whatever you say! :^)

https://twitter.com/rowancheung/status/1726060441103958481

>>fzzzy+Xq
Google+ was an accessory thing. It was like "ye, we should also have a social network" and it didn't work and then what happened to them? Literally nothing, source: its stock.

OpenAI is a different beast, they (or some LLM) could displace Google as the main provider of information to the world. You just don't know what you're talking about, lol.

1: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2023/01/23/how-chat...

>>alecco+oi
The Bloomberg article about Altman seeking funding for a conflicting venture seems like a plant by the other side:

https://archive.is/3LaJF

>>himara+(OP)
Still wondering why Sam was kicked. He is indeed super smart, but I don't trust his integrity and morality based on his past intentions:

  * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldcoin
  * pushing for AI regulation

>>himara+(OP)
> With his firing from OpenAI, Altman quickly got the upper hand in terms of public messaging. The board didn’t use a communications or law firm in its dealings, people familiar with the board said, expecting that the OpenAI team would help them. But Altman had loyalty from investors and employees.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-leadership-hangs-in-balan...

>>pdntsp+BB
He confirmed he's returning: https://twitter.com/sama/status/1726345564059832609

>>mrtksn+Oj
Initially I thought it iwas about money. Now it seems to be about intellectual position: Sama wants to move fast and break things, Ilya does not. I don’t want my bank to replace customer support with LLM agent, that has access to internal APIs or LLM driving a medical decision just yet.

As an example, couple years ago Crisis Text Line decided to sell data to a for profit spin off. Their justification was that data was anonymized, which was bs for it’s unstructured text data, and that it’s not against terms of service, which users had agreed to. Mind you, these users were people in crisis maybe even on a brink of a suicide. This was highly unethical and caused a backlash. Then one of the bod members wrote a half assed “reflection” post [1]. If some core employees of CTL did a “coup” to stop this decision, because they believed it’s unethical and dangerous, wouldn’t it be justifies?

[1] http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2022/01/31/crisis-...

>>aeonik+5I
>Bigger concern would be the construction of a bomb, which, still, takes a lot of hard to hide resources.

The average postgraduate in physics can design a nuclear bomb. That ship sailed in the 1960s. Anyone who uses that as an argument wants a censorship regime that the medieval catholic church would find excessive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jun/24/usa.science

>>p1esk+5J
Why does ChatGPT-4 say its knowledge cut off date is April 2023?

https://chat.openai.com/share/3dd98da4-13a5-4485-a916-60482a...

>>tsunam+fG
Looks fine to me, man. I asked chatGPT to summarize this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation) in the context of your question

Mozilla Corporation's Experience

*Challenges and Adaptation:* Mozilla Corporation has faced financial challenges, leading to restructuring and strategic shifts. This includes layoffs, closing offices, and diversifying into new ventures, such as acquiring Fakespot in 2023

*Dependence on Key Partnerships:* Its heavy reliance on partnerships like the one with Google for revenue has been both a strength and a vulnerability, necessitating adaptations to changing market conditions and partner strategies

*Evolution and Resilience:* Despite challenges, Mozilla Corporation has shown resilience, adapting to market changes and evolving its strategies to sustain its mission, demonstrating the effectiveness of its governance model within the context of its organizational goals and the broader technology ecosystem

In conclusion, while both OpenAI and Mozilla Corporation have navigated unique paths within the tech sector, their distinct governance structures illustrate different approaches to balancing mission-driven goals with operational sustainability and market responsiveness.

>>s1arti+mO
Elon at least backs Ilya.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1726376406785925566?s=61...

>>toomuc+qa
Citation for example of my thesis:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-20/sam-altma... | https://archive.is/sv8SH ("Bloomberg: The Doomed Mission Behind Sam Altman's Shock Ouster From OpenAI")

> At the same time, companies that depend on OpenAI’s software were hastily looking at competing technologies, such as Meta Plaforms Inc.’s large language model, known as Llama. “As a startup, we are worried now. Do we continue with them or not?” said Amr Awadallah, the CEO of Vectara, which creates chatbots for corporate data.

> He said that the choice to continue with OpenAI or seek out a competitor would depend on reassurances from the company and Microsoft. “We need Microsoft to speak up and say everything is stable, we’ll continue to focus on our customers and partners,” Awadallah said. “We need to hear something like that to restore our confidence.”

>>sensan+sP
Do yourself a favor and integrate GPT4 into your workflow.

I use it probably 20 times a day at this point.

example: "I ran performance tests on two systems, here's the results of system 1, and heres the results of system 2. Summarize the results, and build a markdown table containing x,y,z rows."

"extract the reusable functions out of this bash script"

"write me a cfssl command to generate a intermediate CA"

"What is the regex for _____"

"Here are my accomplishments over the last 6 months, summarize them into a 1 page performance report."

etc etc etc

If you're not using GPT4 or some LLM as part of your daily flow you're working too hard.

Get GPT4All (https://gpt4all.io), log into OpenAI, drop $20 on your account, get a API key, and start using GPT4.

>>Shekel+nV
Easier than that would just be downloading the torrent of all of Reddit through Sept 2023.

https://academictorrents.com/details/89d24ff9d5fbc1efcdaf9d7...

>>bko+b41
https://qz.com/openai-books-piracy-microsoft-meta-google-cha....

What's your evidence contrary to this? Sounds like your common sense rather than inside knowledge

>>q7xvh9+w31
Text really doesn't take up that much space, and in addition it compresses pretty well.

The entire English language Wikipedia is only around 60GB in a format that can be readily searched and randomly accessed (ZIM), for example: https://kiwix.org/

>>4death+uW
Yeah! <3 https://github.com/mitmproxy/android-unpinner

>>yeck+Ha1
Nothing yet. Seems like the meeting hasn't finished.

https://twitter.com/emilychangtv/status/1726436311215845862?...

>>p1esk+UX
According to the Bard technical paper (page 14), their model beats GPT-4 in several reasoning benchmarks: https://ai.google/static/documents/palm2techreport.pdf

>>Everdr+Ab1
https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board

>>somena+ec1
https://www.semafor.com/article/03/24/2023/the-secret-histor...

> And Musk proposed a possible solution: He would take control of OpenAI and run it himself.

>>OJFord+vS1
I wouldn't want to be remembered as either Gates or Allen.

For instance:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/paul-allen-goes-after-...

>>jkaplo+ez
I think this is a poor reading of the situation that is aging badly.

https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028

https://www.wired.com/story/openai-staff-walk-protest-sam-al...