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1. d_sem+43[view] [source] 2023-11-19 20:48:31
>>himara+(OP)
It's worth knowing the specific reasons why the board fired Sam before assessing the value of this news. Too much rumor and not enough evidence.
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2. skwirl+c9[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:16:25
>>d_sem+43
It’s pretty clearly just a power play by four of the board members. Keep in mind Sam was part of the board and Greg Brockman was chairman of the board, so this was 4 board members ousting 2 other board members. OpenAI execs have already said it wasn’t for wrongdoing.
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3. jkaplo+ez[view] [source] 2023-11-19 23:26:58
>>skwirl+c9
A majority of the board removing a minority of the board doesn’t seem like a power play to me. If the opposite were somehow achieved, e.g. through persuading one member of the majority to vote against their own interests, and using the chairman’s casting vote, that would be a power play.

Also, the executive who said it wasn’t for malfeasance wasn’t himself on the board and appears to be trying to push for Altman’s return. The board themselves has not yet said there was no malfeasance. To the contrary, they said that Altman had not been completely candid with them, which could very well be the last straw of malfeasance in a pattern of malfeasance which in aggregate reaches a sufficient threshold to justify a firing.

I don’t know whether there was or wasn’t malfeasance, but taking that executive’s word for it seems unwise in this polarized PR war.

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4. skwirl+VJ2[view] [source] 2023-11-20 13:55:58
>>jkaplo+ez
I think this is a poor reading of the situation that is aging badly.

https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028

https://www.wired.com/story/openai-staff-walk-protest-sam-al...

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