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1. dannyw+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:27:07
Presumably a significant amount of OpenAI employees are motivated by money, at least in some form.

The board just vaporised the tender offer, and likely much of their valuation. It’s hard to have confidence in that.

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2. jasonl+Eg[view] [source] 2023-11-19 04:20:08
>>dannyw+(OP)
It's simple collective bargaining. I wonder how many of them oppose unions... until they have a need to work together.
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3. iancmc+0k[view] [source] 2023-11-19 04:48:26
>>dannyw+(OP)
And with the popularity and success of GPT whatever they do next will likely be wildly successful. The timing couldn't be more perfect.
4. userna+Gt[view] [source] 2023-11-19 06:20:33
>>dannyw+(OP)
Also, most of the human race has an instinctual aversion to plotters and machinations. The board's sudden and rather dubious (why the need to bad-mouth Altman?) actions probably didn't sit well with many.

Dante places Brutus in the lowest circle of hell, while Cato is placed outside of hell altogether, even if both fought for the same thing. Sometimes means matter more than ends.

If the whole process had been more regular, they could have removed Altman with little drama.

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5. tarsin+NH[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 08:47:35
>>userna+Gt
We still don’t know if the one plotting was Altman. There is still room for this to be seen as a bold and courageous action.
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6. 46u54u+GZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 11:39:21
>>jasonl+Eg
I can't speak for every American but I find that plenty of Americans are fine with collective bargaining they just don't want to do it through a union if they're in a lucrative line of work already. Which isn't terribly hard to understand, they don't need or want an advocate whose main role is constantly issuing new demands they never cared about on their behalf. They just want to be able to pool their leverage as high value workers within the organization collectively in times of crisis.
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7. Cyberf+101[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 11:42:40
>>tarsin+NH
Sadly, optics matter too. Even if Altman was the schemer, Ilya sure has made himself look like the one.
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8. maskil+ri1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 14:20:59
>>jasonl+Eg
On the contrary, they seem to be doing it quite fine without a union
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