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Charismatic salesmen get the money needed to build the models. Computer scientists are a dime a dozen, universities churn them out every year.

>>cedws+(OP)
In this case, it seems that computer scientists are serious about saving humanity, while salespeople just act as if they are doing so publicly.

>>cedws+(OP)
Equating Ilya to the average B.S. in Computer Science is like equating Sam to a used car salesman. Neither are true and both were instrumental in the success of OpenAI.

>>I_am_t+d1
> it seems that computer scientists are serious about saving humanity

How could they accomplish that without external investment? If the money tap dries up OpenAI will just be left behind.

>>qwytw+y7
They have external investment!

>>I_am_t+y8
From Microsoft? My point is that companies that are serious about making money (even at some indeterminate point in the future) are much better at attracting investment than those which have publicly declared it's not their goals.

Nobody is throwing billions around without expecting anything in return.

>>qwytw+S9
Nobody says that investors don't expect anything. However, it's pretty clear that Sam just solely focused on delivering fast in order to keep his advantage. He said he cared about AGI safety publicly, but his style of leading the company makes it clear that he didn't care.

>>I_am_t+Ia
> However, it's pretty clear that Sam just solely focused on delivering fast in order to keep his advantage

Yes, I'd assume most investors prefer this type of approach to a more cautious one. Meaning that companies like this are more likely to attract investors and more likely to beat the ones which care about AGI safety to actually building an AGI (whatever is that supposed to mean).