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1. pyb+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:57:00
Chances are he's just saying that as negociating leverage with OpenAI, so as perhaps getting his job back.
replies(1): >>supriy+Y1
2. supriy+Y1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:05:36
>>pyb+(OP)
I'm not sure anyone would want to come back to a company after having been maligned as a liar in public, let alone the CEO.
replies(4): >>garden+S3 >>brucet+R6 >>peanut+Qe >>grobam+ll
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3. garden+S3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:15:48
>>supriy+Y1
Plus now everyone is very aware of the allegations against him by his sister.
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4. brucet+R6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:33:08
>>supriy+Y1
And the company he comes back to would be torn in half.

How could Altman work with the leaders who ousted him, and the employees who supported it?

replies(1): >>thepti+ij
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5. peanut+Qe[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 01:30:12
>>supriy+Y1
I highly doubt he could replicate the success of OpenAI with a new AI startup. Especially without Ilya. Just look at how many successful social media platforms Meta has created after Facebook (0 if you don't count the acquisitions of WhatsApp and Instagram).
replies(1): >>fragme+LL1
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6. thepti+ij[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 02:00:57
>>brucet+R6
Well obviously Sutskever would get the axe, and you’d expect at least some (if not all) of the existing board to step down so that Altman's faction had a majority.

It would be a complete capitulation to bring him back at this point.

Unclear how many of the rank and file are loyal to either faction to the point of walking away.

replies(1): >>edgyqu+ZO
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7. grobam+ll[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 02:13:24
>>supriy+Y1
Very telling to see how many VCs are still lining up to give money to this scumbag. This is a guy with zero technical credentials and whose most notable accomplishment was selling out the ML/AI research community.
replies(2): >>selest+6p >>stuxne+cs
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8. selest+6p[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 02:34:05
>>grobam+ll
As someone unfamiliar with him, please do elaborate or link to something I can read up on about how he sold the community out.
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9. stuxne+cs[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 02:54:24
>>grobam+ll
Typical engineer hot take. Altman wields immense influence in SV. Technical brilliance is nothing without the capital (social + monetary) necessary to convert it to useful products.
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10. edgyqu+ZO[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 05:50:01
>>thepti+ij
> obviously Sutskever would get the axe,

That would be a huge mistake he’s irreplaceable. Like it or not OpenAI is his brainchild and any company without him is just another Claude/Grok/Bard and not the source of these innovations.

replies(2): >>bnt+h51 >>gremli+7s3
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11. bnt+h51[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 08:42:41
>>edgyqu+ZO
People said Sam was irreplaceable and then we wasn’t?
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12. ivalm+x91[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 09:24:37
>>bnt+h51
Sam is a salesman, ilya is the scientist. Both are important, unclear what is more important now.
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13. fragme+LL1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 14:56:24
>>peanut+Qe
Time will tell where Threads ends up.
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14. gremli+7s3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 23:17:33
>>edgyqu+ZO
Claude is superior in some respects to gpt4, it writes better copy, prose, etc. of all the ai companies vying to run against openai, anthropic I think has a good chance.

I jump between Bing, and Claude for different things a lot and everytime I try bard I'm more and more impressed by it's craptitude being funded by Google...

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