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1. voisin+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:22:40
Reinstate Sam and now the rest have to go.
replies(2): >>croes+X5 >>voisin+P7
2. croes+X5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:53:39
>>voisin+(OP)
So we'll get MS AI?

Sounds even worse.

3. voisin+P7[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:00:55
>>voisin+(OP)
For those downvoting me, I’d be interested to hear how you think it could work for him to come back and work with the people that unceremoniously fired him and made it sound like he had ethical violations when it now seems clear it was a disagreement over strategy. If there is a disagreement over strategy and he goes back what value do the others provide now?

Also, wouldn’t it seem clear that the board acted rashly in firing him without input from other stakeholders?

I am legitimately interested to know why you downvote as I don’t see another way for it to work.

replies(2): >>cthalu+L8 >>esjeon+8d
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4. cthalu+L8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:05:33
>>voisin+P7
Your position seems presupposed on the idea that people think Sam going back is beneficial for OpenAI.

Personally this is all largely popcorn munching entertainment for me, as I don't think Sutskever is right about a lot of his core tenets, but I also don't think that Altman is a good fit for achieving the charter that OpenAI is obligated to follow.

I don't think OpenAI will be at the forefront of AI/AGI/etc. research a decade from now regardless (and had that position before yesterday's events) but if the OpenAI charter and mission statements are sincerely held beliefs then the path they have been following for the past several years with Altman at the helm have obviously been counter to it.

Whether or not that charter is anything more than a pipe dream isn't really relevant - they're a non-profit so their legal obligation as the board is to direct the resources under their control to achieve that charter.

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5. esjeon+8d[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:30:24
>>voisin+P7
> For those downvoting me

From my own experience, short assertive comments tend to get downvoted on HN. Unlike reddit, votes here are less about agree/disagree.

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