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1. maxfur+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:42:00
Data centers cost billions. Signal, and pretty much everyone else who isn't already in the data center business, is far away from breakeven on that.
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2. Symbio+S3[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:58:53
>>maxfur+(OP)
There are several steps between using AWS and building a datacentre.

- Using similar services from cheaper cloud providers

- Renting VMs

- Renting whole servers

- Renting rack space + power

- Renting larger spaces (many racks, or part or all of a whole floor)

3. hotnfr+oe[view] [source] 2023-11-16 18:49:27
>>maxfur+(OP)
The small ISP/phone/cable company I worked for in high school had a data center. Maybe 20 racks. It was pretty damn reliable (old-school phone infra techs knew how to make shit stay “online”). I guarantee it wasn’t above the single-digit millions to build, inflation adjusted.
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4. frakki+po[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-16 19:34:16
>>hotnfr+oe
That example of your small telecom company isn't really relevant here, is it? Signal needs to work well for people around the world.
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5. hotnfr+XU[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-16 22:09:17
>>frakki+po
You can serve tens to hundreds of millions of messaging clients with data centers (plural) that don’t cost billions, even collectively, to build.
6. MagicM+Tz1[view] [source] 2023-11-17 02:54:11
>>maxfur+(OP)
You don't have to buy a data centre... You can lease space in an existing facility for almost nothing.
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