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1. itisha+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-03 00:54:13
> Influencing elections is not a harm, even if you disagree with the political ends.

It feels icky, but still I mostly agree. I do think there's a limit as I would consider directly influencing elections (via force or deceit) to be harmful, but I'm largely ok with trying to sway public opinion.

> They were notoriously ineffective, which further solidifies this into the non-story bucket.

Unfortunately, they were surprisingly effective at the thing I care about which is collecting millions of people's personal information without their knowledge or consent. The fact they turned out to be incompetent does not inspire confidence.

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2. Eridru+OC2[view] [source] 2023-11-03 18:33:33
>>itisha+(OP)
> Unfortunately, they were surprisingly effective at the thing I care about which is collecting millions of people's personal information without their knowledge or consent.

I think this is the core disagreement, I do not see this in itself as an actual harm, just icky feelings.

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