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Many websites don't have ads, and I'd be happy if all others disappeared.

>>xigoi+(OP)
Ok but you’re not the only person on the internet. Other people have different preferences, and in fact some even enjoy personalized ads. Nobody is forcing you to look at ads on the internet, so why is it fair to force others to not look at ads on the internet?

>>chroma+z4
If some people like being spied on and some don't, why would you oppose the legislation that websites should let people choose for themselves if they want to be spied on?

>>chroma+z4
The solution is obvious: make personalised ads and ad profiles opt-in. Those who want them can choose to give up their privacy and eye-ball capacity, while the rest of can be free from those intrusions.

>>xigoi+(OP)
Can you please share the list of websites you use which don't serve ads? Would love to see an internet experience without ads and without stealing the content via adblockers.

>>Restle+Tr
It's not possible to provide an exhaustive list, but for example:

* Hacker News (has promoted content, but without tracking) * Lobste.rs * Wikipedia * Mastodon * Project Euler * Notabug.org * Lingva Translate * Documentation for numerous FOSS projects * Various personal blogs

Honestly, it's hard for me to find websites that I regularly voluntarily use and do contain ads.

>>xigoi+fv
What do you use for - search, emails, online shopping, news (you mentioned HN but links submitted on HN have ads on them, unless you read only the HN comments)

>>Restle+cx
Search: Kagi

E-mail: Disroot (but with any provider that supports IMAP, you pretty much never have to visit their website)

Online shopping: while some of the sites may have ads, they could easily survive without ads because, well; they literally sell products

News: if HN stopped allowing links to websites with ads, I certainly wouldn't miss them

>>Restle+cx
I use a mailreader to read email. No ads unless someone is spamming me, but that's pretty rare these days. Online shops don't need ads because they already sell their own stuff. I have my own news subscription. Admittedly many shared news links do have ads. For search I use DuckDuckGo; they don't seem to have ads most of the time, but if they do, at least they don't track.

I'm not going out of my way to avoid sites that use ads, but I also don't feel obliged to enable their business model; that's their business, not mine. I care about controlling my own desktop.

Keep in mind that there is a lot of content out there that's funded by Patreon rather than ads. And I think the quality of Patreon-funded content is generally higher, because people consciously choose to support it, rather than it having to use clickbait and other dark patterns to lure your eyeballs in.

>>xigoi+sz
HN won't exist if there are no news sites and almost every site has ads on it.

>>Restle+k84
Many of the best sites I've discovered through Hacker News are ad-free.

>>chroma+z4
And I’m sure that some people like being paid sub-livable wages in company scrip. But that the preference exists doesn’t mean it’s in society’s best interest to let those people get what they want.

>>xigoi+ec4
Mind sharing a few examples? Would be great to know a few ad-free sources.

>>Restle+gqa
Sorry, in my massive list of bookmarks, I have no way to tell how I found out about the sites.

>>xigoi+Fqa
I am not asking about how. I am just asking which ad-free news sites do you use.