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1. cmdli+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:06:07
I would argue that authentic is a relative term, and actually helped me understand the product more easily. IMO, it is “authentic” because, compared to other image fills, it tries to fill in the data using real data from other photos.
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2. endisn+y[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:08:18
>>cmdli+(OP)
IDK, when I think authentic, I think "genuine", and no image generation is genuine by definition. this is not a bad thing necessarily, but it's important to frame these things correctly.

ultimately we oughta think about what we are referring to. if we are talking about a photograph taken by someone, the authenticity is ultimately coming from the combination of the photograph and camera used. so when you think of a genuine photo in this scenario you expect it to be fundamentally taken by the user by a particular camera to create a particular photograph. you can use devices to take a photo without pressing the button, such as a timer, but the photograph and camera are both fundamental to the authenticity of the image. if the camera is no longer entirely involved in the generation of the photograph I would say that it is no longer genuine.

Reference driven as described in the article is more appropriate, but alas it is verbose. normally such pedantry bores me, but in this case it's pretty tantamount to what it is being presented in this case.

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3. jamesh+81[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:11:01
>>cmdli+(OP)
We need a new word: authentish.
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4. sdfghs+02[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:14:55
>>cmdli+(OP)
HN loves arguing about words.
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5. debugn+Z3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-29 20:27:24
>>sdfghs+02
And recent HN posts love to twist them and reinterpret them just for promotion.
6. tremon+B5[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:37:13
>>cmdli+(OP)
How do they know the data from the other photos is real?
7. marric+Y6[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:46:15
>>cmdli+(OP)
It's "authentic" in the same way that when you see something labeled authentic it makes you more likely to question if it's actually what it says it is because authentic thing don't need such labels plastered on them.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure "reconstructed" it the honest word to use.

8. HaZeus+Y7[view] [source] 2023-09-29 20:53:05
>>cmdli+(OP)
I'd call that "contextual" rather than authentic.
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9. tremon+j8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-29 20:55:00
>>endisn+y
I think "composite" would be more accurate to describe this process. As in, "complete a picture using image composition".
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10. smcnal+aa[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-29 21:07:29
>>jamesh+81
Like “truthy.”
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11. waynes+Da[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-29 21:10:45
>>HaZeus+Y7
let me give you an example. when i draw a mustache on a face in ms paint in brown, that's contextual but not authentic.
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