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> Automation is not about having an app for your lights, it’s about not having to think of trivial stuff like turning on a light.

I have lived in America my entire life, a relatively comfortable life, and this sentence makes me feel extremely alienated from first world culture.

>>syndic+(OP)
strong agree here man. I like to think controlling my living environment being a primary function of life

>>jletie+w
just like growing your own barley, amiright?

>>syndic+(OP)
It’s just that you don’t think about all of the ones you already use. Elevators are the classic example here, or a washing machine.

>>jletie+w
What about what they described makes you think they’re not in control? It’s the same principle as a mercury switch thermostat; figure out what you want the system to do and then automate it so you don’t have to constantly screw with it.

>>jletie+w
Hence for example using a clip lead on the bare terminals to turn your HVAC on and off when you feel the need, rather than automating the maintenance of temperature by such unworthy means as a thermostat.

>>c0pium+na
Well technically Amazon/Google/Philips/whoever is in charge of turning on the lights. You just happen to be sending a message that you want your lights turned on, but next week they might ask for a little more personal information or they won’t turn on the lights.

It’s creepy af

>>c0pium+6a
Well no, the analogy would be if you got on an elevator and it could only be controlled by an app that you have to log in to use

>>syndic+B02
Seems like you missed the part where people run these offline. Don’t be so helpless.