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I’ve got a number (~12) KASA products that I’m pretty happy with. Yes, they’re cloud-based, but you can turn that off after initial setup and use them directly over Wi-Fi.

That’s the other (mostly) good thing about… they’re Wi-Fi native and don’t use any sort of hub.

Their iOS app is reasonably decent, and there are honesceeen widgets.

Easy to build fairly advanced automations… for instance I have a rule that turns my bedside fan off and turns the bedroom lights on that runs 5 minutes before my alarm goes off, weekdays only.

Most of what I use are their bulbs, which are both relatively cheap ($30 for a 4 pack), with excellent CRI, variable color temp (including a nightshirt style automation that goes whiter during the day, and both warmer and dimmer at night), and full RGB color.

I probably wouldn’t recommend them for a whole home setup (you’d need pretty serious Wi-Fi routers) but for a case like mine where I’m only using it in a few rooms, it’s great.

>>TylerE+(OP)
Love my Kasa products. API is actively maintained and works super well. Products themselves work great. Their colored bulbs can emit a ton of colors and support scenes. Not as bright as I'd like, though.

You don't need the app if you're using Home Assistant, py-Kasa or something like that since the devices create their own WiFi network on first boot and you can program them from there.

I run 30+ Wi-Fi bulbs on an eero mesh. These devices are noisy but they are responsive (slower than zigbee). Only disadvantage is that they live or die by DHCP. If they can't renew their lease, it can take a while for them to come back online.

>>nunez+12
The one thing I really wish they could do colorwise is the classic "submarine dark red so it doesn't ruin your night vision" thing. The red really doesn't get deeper past a fairly modest point, it just gets dimmer.

>>TylerE+(OP)
Agree that the Kasa app is great, but the QC on their hardware is lacking. I bought a four pack, and two of them just refuse to stay connected to my Unifi 6 Pro access points. After a day or two they drop connection and won't reconnect until you unplug/replug them. Timers, etc all stop working and they get stuck in whatever state they were in - even the button on the plug doesn't work.

Zigbee/Z-Wave plugs have been rock solid reliable.

>>TylerE+(OP)
What happens when your wifi goes down? I mean the local wifi, as often happens for these not "pretty serious routers".

I realize wifi might be the best of several bad options though.

>>dervjd+G4
Surprised I haven't seen more mentions of Z-wave here. It seems like something that would be more popular.

>>Fatnin+P8
Flick the wall switch twice. That’ll power cycle it and it defaults to on (although you can configure that, too).

The smart plugs that I use for fans have a physical push button