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The Home Assistant team has a full company behind them, and they sell cloud services for the app for people who want it. Zigbee2MQTT has 113 sponsors. If you run them both with docker then updating is pretty simple with no package breaks.

I do get your point though. Fixing the lack of a privacy focused option that works well for people who aren't familiar with systems administration would be nice.

>>tedivm+(OP)
“If you run them both with docker then updating is pretty simple with no package breaks.”

Do you realize how insane this sounds for non-technical people who want to turn on a light in their livingroom?

>>uptown+V2
Your grandma doesn’t know how to run containers as k8s services?

Don’t tell me she still manually SSHes to each box to run the apps in the background using nohup?!

>>koolba+k3
Grandma's still rocking the automation through the power lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm33KB2Th9M&t=680s

>>tedivm+(OP)
> If you run them both with docker then updating is pretty simple with no package breaks.

This is a lie.

>>koolba+k3
Granny’s got Ansible, been treating em like a herd since way back using ssh.

>>vdqtp3+m4
> This is a lie.

Is it possible that it’s simply incorrect? There’s a difference.

>>uptown+V2
Man if only there was another way to turn on lights.

>>philis+c4
Hey, don't laugh! Literally last week I dug out my old X10 kit and set up my new office with it and a 25 year old remote that only needed new batteries. Still got the serial port dongle somewhere too in case I need to strap it to a Pi :)

>>tedivm+(OP)
They also make appliances, so it is as simple as buying a home assistant yellow and pairing it to the lights.

>>tedivm+(OP)
Why can I trust Home Assistant?

>>uptown+V2
Non-technical people shouldn't do home automation. Unfortunate, but it's true. The entire market is just ewaste.

>>faddyp+ha
Hmmm, NFC tag paired to the light that you can tap with your phone to turn it on/off?

>>hacker+Ke
It's completely open source, so you can run it yourself. I've read through a lot of the code and have contributed to it- it's pretty well organized.