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1. SV_Bub+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-24 14:45:44
That could all be true, but folks also testified they personally witnessed him violently shaking at least one kid.

You can be against junk science, but entertain the likely possibility he also did it.

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2. brooks+41[view] [source] 2023-09-24 14:50:55
>>SV_Bub+(OP)
You can also entertain the possibility that he did it, while still wanting a justice system that insists on absolute proof of guilt before killing someone.
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3. InStea+a8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-24 15:43:19
>>brooks+41
* The daughter was sick from birth with breathing apnea, with bouts causing her to collapse and stop breathing.

* Had severe undiagnosed pneumonia.

* Was prescribed an opioid medication that is no longer deemed safe for children.

* Had diarrhea and a fever of 104F for 5 days prior to her death.

How can you not entertain the possibility that her death had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that someone claims a dude shook a child one time?

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4. unytti+sa[view] [source] 2023-09-24 16:00:16
>>SV_Bub+(OP)
No, not really. Let's say the testimony was reliable, which it wasn't. What's the proper inference: that he kept going with bad parenting and escalated to murder? Or, that he recognized what he did was unhelpful and problematic so never did it again? How do you choose between inferences? In this way, the "evidence" comes back, again, to something alarmingly like a popularity contest which turns, quite unacceptably, on these people's presuppositions about a socially awkward dad trying to raise the child solo.
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5. guraf+9i[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-24 16:46:03
>>unytti+sa
> What's the proper inference: that he kept going with bad parenting and escalated to murder?

The path is this: he is known to have shook at least one kid before, so maybe that's that happened again with the kid who died in his care. Doesn't mean there was an intent. Just that he shook too hard or the wrong way. So you ask a doctor you check for signs. Doctor says yup, totally SBS. The end.

At no point did he need to "escalate to murder", so there is no leap needed. It's all very straightforward.

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6. anon84+St[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-24 17:53:54
>>InStea+a8
And if I read the article correctly, those claims were made by the girls mother who 1) Lost or relinquished custody to Roberson in the first place 2) Was contradicted by her own sister who said she never observed that type of behavior and that the mother was prone to lying

In any case the conviction doesn't remotely approach the bar of "beyond a reasonable doubt"

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