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> Sonos are also agressively pushing out app updates that sunset older models of their speakers

Sonos has a ~10 year support timeline on their speakers. That's longer than even Apple supports any of their devices, and they're often considered the gold standard of long support of tech products.

I hate being made to defend Sonos twice as it makes me feel like a shill, but it is truly how it is.

>>jorvi+(OP)
Man, it's a speaker.

Get Bose or something similar - they'll just keep working without strings attached/tracking/on-the-road/etc forever.

ps. I'm happily using 10y+ old iMac 27" with popOS - works great.

>>mirekr+MB
Sonos doesn’t have tracking. That’s my entire point. And it’s extremely ironic you call Bose “no strings attached”, that’s what Sonos is about in the most literal sense.

You pay a huge premium in trade for less wires, great multi-room audio, decent sound and a long support timeline.

I will say that I hope Sonos and Google bury the axe at some point, and the Cast (or at least DIAL) protocol gets added.

>>jorvi+MW
On the planet I live on, Sonos does obnoxious tracking. There is no direct communication between client and speaker at all - everything calls/is routed via home. Moreover client on mobile requires and will refuse to run setup until you grant it precise location permissions. It's a spaghetti of strings attached.

Bose and other bluetooth speakers don't have any strings attached because:

* you don't have to be connected to the internet to use it

* you don't have to have account with them to use it

* you don't have to grant tracking permissions to use it

* manufacturer can decide to discontinue product or go bankrupt - it doesn't matter, you can still use product as you did before, you're unaffected

* you don't have to worry about software deprecation - new versions of sonos client for iOS require recent versions of Apple devices - you can't install client on older phones/tablets to use your speaker