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Sonos are also agressively pushing out app updates that sunset older models of their speakers, as we all arbitrarily doing things like blocking streaming of audio from your phone.

Sonos might have been good in the past when they were selling a way of streaming your ripped mp3s around your house, they are no longer good now that they think they own the content too.

>>coremo+(OP)
Plus Sonos really hasn't kept up. No support for RSTP, no ability to cast audio.

I have many devices and use them every day - but if I had a clean slate I don't think I'd buy them again.

>>coremo+(OP)
> Sonos are also agressively pushing out app updates that sunset older models of their speakers

Sonos has a ~10 year support timeline on their speakers. That's longer than even Apple supports any of their devices, and they're often considered the gold standard of long support of tech products.

I hate being made to defend Sonos twice as it makes me feel like a shill, but it is truly how it is.

>>jorvi+EO1
Man, it's a speaker.

Get Bose or something similar - they'll just keep working without strings attached/tracking/on-the-road/etc forever.

ps. I'm happily using 10y+ old iMac 27" with popOS - works great.

>>mirekr+qq2
Sonos doesn’t have tracking. That’s my entire point. And it’s extremely ironic you call Bose “no strings attached”, that’s what Sonos is about in the most literal sense.

You pay a huge premium in trade for less wires, great multi-room audio, decent sound and a long support timeline.

I will say that I hope Sonos and Google bury the axe at some point, and the Cast (or at least DIAL) protocol gets added.

>>jorvi+qL2
On the planet I live on, Sonos does obnoxious tracking. There is no direct communication between client and speaker at all - everything calls/is routed via home. Moreover client on mobile requires and will refuse to run setup until you grant it precise location permissions. It's a spaghetti of strings attached.

Bose and other bluetooth speakers don't have any strings attached because:

* you don't have to be connected to the internet to use it

* you don't have to have account with them to use it

* you don't have to grant tracking permissions to use it

* manufacturer can decide to discontinue product or go bankrupt - it doesn't matter, you can still use product as you did before, you're unaffected

* you don't have to worry about software deprecation - new versions of sonos client for iOS require recent versions of Apple devices - you can't install client on older phones/tablets to use your speaker