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You will have to excuse me if I don’t trust a company that kicks off users at the behest of the PRC!

https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/zoom-admits-to-shutting-do...

Quibbles over the definition of phrases like “Customer Content” and “Service Generated Data” are designed to obfuscate meaning and confuse readers to think that the headline is wrong. It is not wrong. This company does what it wants to, obviously, given it’s complicity with a regime that is currently engaging in genocide.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037.amp

Why do you trust them to generate an AI model of your appearance and voice that could be used to destroy your life? I don’t.

>>westco+(OP)
I'm not rendering an opinion here about the trustworthiness of Zoom. I'm simply saying that the plain reading of the TOS is the opposite of what the headline on this post claims.

>>westco+(OP)
Well it’s a Chinese company. So they are beholden to the CCP.

>>jxf+o
The definition of phrases like “Customer Content” and “Service Generated Data” are unclear. It is disingenuous to say that the headline is the “opposite” of what the headline suggests.

You really think that the engineers in China are not actively working on developing AI models of users without using a lot of user content to feed the model? Doubtful. Hiding behind ill-defined terms has the fingerprints of an Orwellian regime. I think I know which one.

>>throwa+A1
Zoom? A company publicly traded on the Nasdaq and funded in San Jose, CA?

>>eh9+cl
Surprised me too...

"The company has previously acknowledged that much of its technology development is conducted in China and security concerns from governments abound."

https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/zoom-admits-to-shutting-do...

>>qingch+Ax
The wording of things in the preferences dialog has always convinced me that it's not primarily developed in the US.

>>eh9+cl
Its CEO has ties to the CCP, development is all done in China. Just because it has a company registered and claims to be founded in San Jose doesn’t mean it’s not a Chinese company.

>>throwa+ww1
By that logic, Apple is also a Chinese company.

>>throw3+CG1
Apple only assembled products in China. Almost none of the iPhone is made in China. They do no development in China. They didn’t start the company in China. They run the app store and iCloud storage separately in China.

So by that logic. No.