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1. toyg+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:14:40
"We" already waged a grassroot browser-war campaign in the late '90s-early '00s, when Mozilla was born and eventually birthed Firefox. It was successful enough to seriously dent the Microsoft monopoly, creating the political conditions for antitrust authorities to deliver significant hits to their power.

It can be done again. Just drop the fucking Chromium bullshit now.

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2. jamiek+Q4[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:32:17
>>toyg+(OP)
While I don’t want to be defeatist the web was smaller then, we had a common enemy in Microsoft that actively made the web worse.

Google makes it better for ordinary people. Or at least gives them that impression due to sites targeting chrome.

Firefox was an easy sell because it was just better for the user and importantly the dev tools were a quantum leap ahead.

The web was largely still made up of enthusiasts, very few people doom scrolled all day via apps like they do now.

Any fight back that isn’t mobile first is doomed.

And mobile first takes resources and taking on Apple and Google at once.

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3. toyg+qd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 19:04:34
>>jamiek+Q4
> While I don’t want to be defeatist the web was smaller then

Yeah, but that also means that fines can be much bigger now, and make bigger headlines - which is what politics is about.

> Any fight back that isn’t mobile first is doomed.

This is actually a prime chance to highlight that mobile needs serious antitrust work.

Firefox on mobile exists, btw. Are you using it?

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