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>>topshe+(OP)
It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help:

Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small.

I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/

(It only appears on Chromium-based browsers.)

We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.

>>encody+oe
The issue with that is that most people here will only have their own website or product, which is already aimed at more tech-savvy people, who will already have made a conscious decision to use Firefox, Chrome, or whichever browser they prefer.

But we / this site only represents a small percentage. 85% market share means there are hundreds of millions, if not billions of users that would have to switch to make any kind of impact.

And you can't do that without being a very large company with an operating system or the most popular search engine or other ways to constantly tell people to use your browser, no matter how good or privacy conscious or whatever your own is.

>>Cthulh+5v
"We" already waged a grassroot browser-war campaign in the late '90s-early '00s, when Mozilla was born and eventually birthed Firefox. It was successful enough to seriously dent the Microsoft monopoly, creating the political conditions for antitrust authorities to deliver significant hits to their power.

It can be done again. Just drop the fucking Chromium bullshit now.

>>toyg+8z1
While I don’t want to be defeatist the web was smaller then, we had a common enemy in Microsoft that actively made the web worse.

Google makes it better for ordinary people. Or at least gives them that impression due to sites targeting chrome.

Firefox was an easy sell because it was just better for the user and importantly the dev tools were a quantum leap ahead.

The web was largely still made up of enthusiasts, very few people doom scrolled all day via apps like they do now.

Any fight back that isn’t mobile first is doomed.

And mobile first takes resources and taking on Apple and Google at once.

>>jamiek+YD1
> While I don’t want to be defeatist the web was smaller then

Yeah, but that also means that fines can be much bigger now, and make bigger headlines - which is what politics is about.

> Any fight back that isn’t mobile first is doomed.

This is actually a prime chance to highlight that mobile needs serious antitrust work.

Firefox on mobile exists, btw. Are you using it?