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1. prmous+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-26 14:44:08
> Who has been mismanaged for at least a decade

Do you think Google is better managed?

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2. PedroB+Cz1[view] [source] 2023-07-26 20:36:27
>>prmous+(OP)
One has a browser that has +60% market share, the other went from ~55% to 3%.

One company dominates "the Web" and pulls these shenanigans all every other year, the other one is totally dependent of the former to pay their bills.

So yeah, Google has been better managed than Mozilla. That doesn't invalidate Google's execs are a bunch of lizards on the now common SV ego trip and screw up all the time, but they can and ensure they can continue to do so, Mozilla is not in the same position and part of blame must be attributed to them.

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3. prmous+x93[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-27 08:41:43
>>PedroB+Cz1
Dwindling market share of firefox is pretty much not related to how the mozilla foundation is managed. They had 55% of the market when the only competition was:

- ie6 which was a security nightmare for everybody

- browsers like Opera developed by very small companies against which competition was more based on merit

The only way for Mozilla have been able to maintain its market share against chrome would have to manage to reach both these requirements:

- build the #1 smartphone OS in the market in term of market share to have it preinstalled everywhere

- build the #1 search engine in term of market share to advertise using it everytime the user search for something.

Both feats requiring:

- financial means that were out of reach from the Mozilla foundation at any moment in time regardless of its management.

- giving up on mozilla ethics and values to be on same level as the definitely evil competitor.

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