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1. jamesh+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-25 04:29:43
> when Apple tried to push a U2 album to them? They lost their collective shit.

Yeah, Apple was toast after they did that. Their share price in 2014 when they did that was $24, and immediately afterwards it rose to $33 over the next 12 months. And since then, it's just been one long slow decline to almost $200 a share, as their global mobile market share has gone from the 24% it enjoyed in 2014 to the measly 29% it enjoys today.

Online outrage does not translate to action.

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2. hinkle+V8[view] [source] 2023-07-25 05:53:22
>>jamesh+(OP)
Look at all of the albums Apple has pushed on people since then.
3. Someon+1H[view] [source] 2023-07-25 11:07:19
>>jamesh+(OP)
You’re forgetting a 4:1 stock split in August 2020, so it’s even worse ;-)

I think this illustrates that people only worry about this kind of thing if it gets shoved into their face.

The privacy thing is OK as long as it’s only used for the good. For example, I think nobody would object against a world where every killer would be caught within an hour to get a fair trial.

However, such a world also would be one where every traffic offense could be fined, and where powers that be could find some dirt on anybody in their email history, presence on on-street cameras, etc. Worse, it would take relatively few people to pull that of.

That’s something I think nobody wants, but it’s abstract until it affects you, so few people worry about it.

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4. Weylan+Z02[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 17:09:17
>>Someon+1H
By this argument we should defund the police because they could be used for oppression. Forgetting the reality that they are also stopping thousands of crimes every single day.

Privacy absolution is never what most people signed up for.

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5. Someon+sg7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 22:07:08
>>Weylan+Z02
Where did I make the argument that “we” don’t want to give up any privacy? I’m only claiming “we” don’t want to give up all privacy.

Also, “the police” are thousands of humans. That makes it harder to use the police for oppression than if “the police” were a bunch of computers and robots.

If somebody proposed the latter, I think lots of people would object.

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