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1. benter+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:27:22
Not until Mozilla gives in.
replies(7): >>hdjdnd+K >>LispSp+O >>blibbl+s1 >>exithe+K2 >>kelnos+H3 >>dolive+Lb >>dhx+QL
2. hdjdnd+K[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:31:27
>>benter+(OP)
Where do you think Mozilla gets its funding from?
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3. LispSp+O[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:31:39
>>benter+(OP)
As I recall, Mozilla caved last time with EME so I would not count on it.
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4. hdjdnd+P[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 22:31:43
>>hdjdnd+K
Capitulation in 3,2,1
5. blibbl+s1[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:35:58
>>benter+(OP)
no web attestation for them then

youtube, prime video, netflix, banking, github

none of that for firefox users

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6. JohnFe+y2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 22:43:31
>>LispSp+O
Yeah, that was when I realized that Mozilla wasn't really able to stand up to the bad guys as much as we'd hope.
replies(2): >>jeroen+c5 >>redeem+a6
7. exithe+K2[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:44:32
>>benter+(OP)
The market share of firefox is so low and there are already a ton of popular websites that don't work on firefox. Mozilla will very much be forced to follow along here.
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8. kelnos+H3[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:50:40
>>benter+(OP)
And if they don't give in, Firefox users will stop being able to access Google properties, and then probably others like video and music streaming sites, and possibly even the larger news outlets. Banking sites might get in on the action, being led to believe that doing so will increase security.
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9. jeroen+c5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 23:02:06
>>JohnFe+y2
You can still disable EME if you don't want it. That's a lot harder to do on other browsers.

I would probably have dropped Firefox back then if it was the only browser that I couldn't watch Netflix in, and I wouldn't be the only one. I don't think Mozilla can bear the loss of userbase.

replies(1): >>JohnFe+S32
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10. redeem+a6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 23:09:05
>>JohnFe+y2
thats because mozilla simply stopped having any interest in browsing whatsoever.

They now have an interest in limited edition color drops and with their bespoke charactaristic allowing users to select color that best resonates with them.

You and I, as mere mortals, may not know what this means, but rest assured, mozilla does.

replies(1): >>redeem+uf
11. dolive+Lb[view] [source] 2023-07-24 23:52:34
>>benter+(OP)
Even if they don't, a lot of websites are just breaking on Firefox. The development community decided they want a Chrome monoculture.
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12. redeem+uf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 00:20:16
>>redeem+a6
to whomever downvoted this, you clearly need some more independent voices in your life, but fear not, Mozilla got you covered: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/in...
replies(2): >>animuc+xe1 >>accoun+ph5
13. dhx+QL[view] [source] 2023-07-25 04:58:59
>>benter+(OP)
Mozilla are proposing IPA[1] which is designed to track user interaction with ads and product marketing, and track any conversion that occurs (e.g. users end up purchasing something).

If you are shown a product ad whilst browsing searchengine.example and then later look up the product at reviews.example, then end up making a purchase at shop.example, your browser sends all of these events to an aggregation service that allows shop.example to understand (at least in aggregate, assuming you trust the cartel running the aggregation service) that you were exposed to their product at searchengine.example and further exposed to their product at reviews.example.

[1] https://github.com/patcg-individual-drafts/ipa/

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14. benter+ZV[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 06:31:22
>>exithe+K2
> there are already a ton of popular websites that don't work on firefox.

Like which one?

replies(1): >>exithe+2B1
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15. animuc+xe1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 09:18:56
>>redeem+uf
Wow! This is depressing.
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16. exithe+2B1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 12:28:27
>>benter+ZV
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/firefox/fix-probl...

Try searching for "only chrome".

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17. JohnFe+S32[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 14:46:18
>>jeroen+c5
Right. That's why Mozilla can't meaningfully stand up against these forces anymore. It's not that they don't want to, it's that they don't have the market strength.
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18. accoun+ph5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 10:34:23
>>redeem+uf
Worth linking this epic: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-...
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