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Is Reuters Russian propaganda now? Good Lord.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-intelligence-suggest...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-had-intelligence-ukrainian-...

>>pphysc+(OP)
From your first link:

> There was no evidence that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy or other Ukrainian government officials were behind the attacks which spewed natural gas into the Baltic Sea, the newspaper reported, citing U.S. officials.

I'm not really following why Greta should be condemning the Ukrainian government if there's no evidence they had anything to do with it.

>>Volund+H1
Where did I suggest that Greta should condemn him? She should simply not run PR for the government most proximal to the worst act of environmental terrorism in history, until more is figured out.

Imagine if Barack Obama did a photo op with the Saudi King in 2002, with the purpose of promoting the Saudi regime, just a year after a dozen Saudi nationals perpetrated 9/11. "Tone-deaf" would be putting it mildly.

I'm saying that Greta Thunberg, figurehead of environmentalism, is being unbelievably tone-deaf and it reflects very poorly on the integrity of her movement.

>>pphysc+E3
You keep calling it "environmental terrorism". How are you making that leap without even knowing who did it. Assuming for a moment the Ukraine government is involved (unproven), it seems far more likely they saw an opportunity to sabotage Russian infrastructure rather than an environmental motivation. You know the country that invaded them and they are currently at war with?

> Greta Thunberg, figurehead of environmentalism

Yuck. Greta is a 20-year old woman who happened to find the spotlight at 15 because a young person being so outspoken captured the public imagination. She's not some patron saint of environmentalism she's one young person who will enjoy making a great many bad decisions in her life (it's not clear to me that this is one). Taking her every action or inaction and using it to paint the entire environmental movement is nonsense.

> Imagine if Barack Obama did a photo op with the Saudi King in 2002, with the purpose of promoting the Saudi regime, just a year after a dozen Saudi nationals perpetrated 9/11. "Tone-deaf" would be putting it mildly.

Comparing Nord Stream to 9/11, especially if it was an act of war by Ukraine, feels like quite a reach.