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1. Johnny+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-02 06:09:57
Someone pointed out that it looks like most of the workers that stayed at Twitter appear to be foreign born and are probably reliant on Twitter's sponsorship of their H1-B visa.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7z5px/twitter-employees-on-...

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2. voytec+Rb[view] [source] 2023-07-02 08:22:30
>>Johnny+(OP)
Can sponsored H1-B visa holders look for another sponsorship to try to switch jobs, or would they get deported after resigning from "hardcore Twitter"?
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3. bileka+cg[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 09:12:36
>>voytec+Rb
They would need to go through the process again of a new visa with the new potential employer. It's a real pain.

I would imagine a lot of the H1 b visa holders are there just to let their visa run out while making some money.

Anyway it doesn't matter. This isn't and engineer problem. It's a management problem. The management is the definition of incompetent.

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4. manque+lh[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 09:27:33
>>voytec+Rb
They can look for other jobs but have to be in a new job within 60 days of leaving twitter with all the paperwork etc, given the market I would expect it is not as easy as say a year back even.

It is easier with other tech companies because unlike Musk they are/were generous severance time so those probably got 90+ days in severance time and the 60 days with say FAANG layoffs.

Also switching jobs can set them back on their path to permanent residency application timelines , depending on the country of citizenship that could be adding some years to continue on H1B and this dependency cycle so people close to their PR may try to stick it out

No one gets deported per se, most undocumented immigrants are people who fly over and overstay their visas, the USCIS will not check anything when they leave (by design so no one worries about leaving) however if they overstay the visa, it will be a tough time entering again , very likely to be rejected at the border or new visa application would be denied.

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5. voytec+Ji[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 09:40:53
>>bileka+cg
I agree that this is very much a management problem. Incompetent management, to add. I'm just curious why would these engineers stick for so long. Everything I read about Twitter nowadays suggest a highly toxic work environment. And from experience: having an unstable boss is tiring, to say the least.
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6. croes+nk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 10:02:22
>>bileka+cg
This sounds pretty much like boilerplate exploitation
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7. banana+Kq[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 11:23:04
>>croes+nk
welcome to the H1-B visa system!
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8. paxys+zA[view] [source] 2023-07-02 12:48:52
>>Johnny+(OP)
How many Twitter engineers are on H-1B? 10%? 50%? 90%? Unless someone can find this number out for real, why is the default argument "they are all being held captive and cannot leave"? Would you apply the same logic to Tesla and SpaceX, who have the same working conditions? Here's a more reasonable take - engineers believe in the product they are building and are happy with the salary they get.
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9. paxys+DA[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 12:49:31
>>voytec+Rb
They can look for another job while they are employed. If they quit they just have 60 days or they must leave the country.
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10. onlyre+9H[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 13:40:10
>>paxys+zA
Twitter workforce is down ~80%: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.masslive.com/business/2023/...

Facebook was reportedly ~15% H1B workers. It doesn't take a lot of skew in who was fired and who didn't leave for other employment for Twitter to be >50% H1B at the moment.

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11. paxys+zT[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 15:13:59
>>onlyre+9H
So are you saying that Twitter engineering is >50% H-1B at the moment? Do you have a source for it?
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12. mechan+uV[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 15:25:03
>>banana+Kq
Definitely end the H1-B program.
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