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1. TheHap+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-02 02:52:29
What holiday is it?
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2. voganm+v[view] [source] 2023-07-02 02:57:45
>>TheHap+(OP)
Is this really easier than consulting a calendar?

Its the weekend before the 4th of July, the independence day for USA - many employers give employees Monday and Tuesday off, creating a potential four day break during what is typically very good weather - that being said Twitter is presumably (still) an international company with people in all different holiday areas.

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3. easton+a1[view] [source] 2023-07-02 03:03:18
>>TheHap+(OP)
4th of July (America’s birthday). Which is actually Tuesday, but many people are taking Monday off too.
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4. TheHap+v4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 03:42:25
>>voganm+v
I searched "what holiday is it this weekend" on kagi and found nothing. I don't know what country GP is in and I haven't heard about any public holidays this weekend.

The "America is the default" is tiring. The US makes up ~ 5% of the population, and most of us do not default to American thinking.

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5. woodso+G7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 04:25:44
>>TheHap+v4
I generally agree with your sentiment, but Twitter is a US company with most of their employees residing in the US (at least presumably?). So in this case it’s reasonable to assume they meant it’s a holiday in the US.
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6. boc+Z7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 04:29:47
>>TheHap+v4
You’re on the English-speaking internet when the only other countries awake are Canada and Australia/NZ.

You’re in an America conversation thread, whether you like it or not.

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7. defros+n8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 04:36:19
>>boc+Z7
Pretty sure Singapore, Indonesia, Korea, etc are both awake and home to large numbers of English speaking (even if only ESL) IT professionals.
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8. badreq+Vf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 06:08:52
>>TheHap+v4
seems like a great reason not to use Kagi
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9. yibg+dj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 06:45:40
>>TheHap+v4
Maybe because Twitter is a US company with headquarters in San Francisco?
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10. bombol+DS[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 13:05:54
>>woodso+G7
It might be a surprise to you, but people who don't live in the USA have no idea of what the holidays in the USA are!
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11. joeyth+D61[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 14:53:12
>>voganm+v
Not everybody has US calendars.
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12. joeyth+G61[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 14:54:06
>>woodso+G7
I would not be surprised if Twitter is substantially Indian or spread across the world.
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13. joeyth+L61[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 14:54:52
>>bombol+DS
Yup! And as somebody living in the United States, it is not so obvious how I would learn about Russian holidays, etc.
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14. joeyth+R61[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 14:55:28
>>boc+Z7
People are awake all hours of the day.
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15. woodso+gL1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 18:58:06
>>bombol+DS
As someone not from the US, it’s not a surprise at all. But if someone says a foreign company is making their employees work on a holiday weekend, I don’t fault them for not explaining what specific holiday it is.
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16. bart_s+rG5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-03 22:23:10
>>TheHap+v4
I guarantee you well over 50% of this website is American or lives currently in America. Twitter is also an American company so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to connect the dots and understand that the commenter is referring to the US.
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17. whywhy+ZU5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-04 00:04:42
>>joeyth+D61
But everyone here has access to the internet and hopefully some really basic deductive reasoning skills.
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18. taskfo+i68[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-04 16:26:24
>>voganm+v
not everything is obvious to everyone all the time. what's wrong with people asking questions? to other parts of the world american customs are weird/foreign, for instance regarding getting a day off.
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19. IIsi50+uY8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-04 20:38:17
>>badreq+Vf
I wouldn't judge it based on this alone.

I haven't generally used sentence-style queries wth any search engine since AskJeeves. Paitly because AskJeeves was terrible at finding what I was looking for, and partly because it almost always produces poor results on every other search engine I've known.

I just don't expect natural-language queries to work (yet). I've also watched too many people struggle to get "Ok Google, …" to return usable results; seems the majority of the time it fails or would have been faster to type out.

I still don't have a feel for Kagi. I used it occasionally when they had a free tier, but was always afraid my habit of submitting multiple revised queries to search engines would use up the free allotment. The current sample search for headphones was somewhat helpful recently, though "best x" is not a search pattern I tend to use, and even though I tend to search for 'phones with flatter response than most.

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20. TheHap+he9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-04 22:17:13
>>IIsi50+uY8
> I still don't have a feel for Kagi. I used it occasionally when they had a free tier, but was always afraid my habit of submitting multiple revised queries to search engines would use up the free allotment.

I have the base plan (1400 queries a month I believe) and regularly revise queries or put in things I should use something else for (e.g "current time UTC"). I'm yet to exceed the included query quantity.

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