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1. Liquid+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-01 23:46:32
From previous stories about Elon, telling him he’s wrong is a guarantee you’re going under that bus.
replies(1): >>Walter+L2
2. Walter+L2[view] [source] 2023-07-02 00:08:31
>>Liquid+(OP)
Every person in power is told he's wrong every day, all day, by most everyone.

Heck, I've hired people to teach me things, told them they were wrong, and learned the hard way, many times.

replies(4): >>Liquid+i4 >>BearOs+Xk >>chrisw+Tm >>Waterl+961
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3. Liquid+i4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 00:21:47
>>Walter+L2
>Every person in power is told he's wrong every day, all day, by most everyone.

Not those who just punish anyone who dares. Then they're just not told anything but "yes, sir" until disaster strikes.

replies(1): >>cgio+J6
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4. cgio+J6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 00:45:01
>>Liquid+i4
Not in Musk’s defense, I guess there are enough signs that his posture is authoritarian and therefore bound to end up with yes-men, but people in power also sometimes are willing to listen in the proper context. I.e. as long as it is in private or in a trusted forum, where being the Cassandra does not link the warning with their leadership. Of course the really powerful will also react to potentially uncomfortable feedback in a proper forum or in person, rather than in public.
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5. BearOs+Xk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 03:07:54
>>Walter+L2
Then you haven't heard about about Vladimir Putin.
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6. chrisw+Tm[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 03:27:15
>>Walter+L2
> Every person in power is told he's wrong every day, all day, by most everyone.

Wait, what? That's a ridiculous assertion, even taken as hyperbole. A huge percentage of people in power surround themselves with "yes-men", and are allergic to (even constructive) criticism, let alone direct disagreement.

replies(1): >>Walter+jt
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7. Walter+jt[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 04:55:22
>>chrisw+Tm
How many people tell Musk he's wrong every day? From reading social media, probably around a million! Heck, just look at the replies to his Twitter posts.
replies(2): >>short_+cM >>iainme+EM
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8. short_+cM[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 08:36:00
>>Walter+jt
The millions of people on social media are not the one surrounding Musk and having his ear.

Let's say there are a 100 people who actually interact with him in a professional context. Those are the ones that are yes men.

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9. iainme+EM[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 08:39:27
>>Walter+jt
That’s not the same thing at all. The original comment was clearly talking about people who work directly for him, whom he has the power to fire on the spot.
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10. Waterl+961[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-02 12:17:28
>>Walter+L2
This only happens to good leaders, not all leaders. Bad leaders systematically stop this behaviour through various forms of discouragement.
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