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1. Angost+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-27 14:43:12
That’s a configurable suggestion in Safari. Go to Settings > Safari and turn off ‘Safari suggestions’
replies(2): >>13of40+E2 >>acomje+X6
2. 13of40+E2[view] [source] 2023-06-27 14:52:37
>>Angost+(OP)
A non-dark-pattern for that would be a button on the first suggestion that lets you disable the suggestion permanently.
replies(2): >>TX81Z+I6 >>Angost+xQ3
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3. TX81Z+I6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 15:10:11
>>13of40+E2
I think people have started using “dark pattern” to mean any UX decisions they disagree with.

There is a hugely substantive difference between this feature being on by default and say, making a ”reject tracking” button in 2 point grey font. Dark patterns are primarily things that if presented equally would result in a different decision which often go directly against the users self interest.

I don’t see that here.

replies(3): >>lostms+w7 >>deely3+Ip >>13of40+L41
4. acomje+X6[view] [source] 2023-06-27 15:11:00
>>Angost+(OP)
Thanks, I'll give it a try.

I wish they would label that section of the results (would have given a hint to what it was). The google search results are labeled and appear below those unlabeled suggestions.

It feels a little sneaky to me (like having to go to settings to turn off the a"subscribe to apple music" in the music app..)

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5. lostms+w7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 15:13:20
>>TX81Z+I6
The dark pattern is redirecting Google search to Apple maps.
replies(3): >>TX81Z+o8 >>Spivak+UQ >>jahews+ol1
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6. TX81Z+o8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 15:16:32
>>lostms+w7
Ok, I can agree there, I thought they meant the search bar suggestions which is maybe annoying but not misleading or controlling.
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7. deely3+Ip[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 16:32:27
>>TX81Z+I6
Some feature that appears from nowhere, enabled by default, changes you workflow to draw you attention to ecosystem owner. Feature that you have to do a search to disable it.

Not a dark pattern.

But when this happens 6 times in a row..

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8. Spivak+UQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 18:32:04
>>lostms+w7
How do I get this to happen? I turned them all on typed in an address, hit return, hit the button on Google and it opened in Google Maps. I'm on the latest version of iOS.
replies(1): >>acomje+gZ
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9. acomje+gZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 19:12:52
>>Spivak+UQ
It's the "safari suggestion" feature. As you type it does a sort of auto complete. For me it was a restuarant name, that "safari suggested" and put at the top of the browser window above the google results. I think the trick is happens before the return is clicked. I was on the go and trying to work fast. I turned it off as a user suggested.
replies(1): >>throwa+dF1
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10. 13of40+L41[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 19:45:09
>>TX81Z+I6
Turning something on by default and then making the user drill down three menu layers to turn it off is equivalent to that scam where you're walking through Rome and someone hands you a flower, then demands five euros for it. If you're involved in writing software like that, then congratulations, you're a con artist.
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11. jahews+ol1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 21:12:03
>>lostms+w7
Maybe you don’t remember when Google started inserting its own maps at the top of location searches in place of the top-result: MapQuest. Probably a good 15 years ago.
replies(1): >>FireBe+uB1
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12. FireBe+uB1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 22:46:05
>>jahews+ol1
How is this even remotely relevant? Company 1 does self-centered things, so Company 2 cannot receive criticism for doing self-centered things?
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13. throwa+dF1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-27 23:09:33
>>acomje+gZ
I am baffled by this thread. Never seen any such behavior. Just enabled Safari suggestions. Looking up a place on Google, clicking Maps, Google Maps opens.

I am not sure whether to be against this feature because I cannot get it working... Is it an US only feature or some magic combination of other settings is required?

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14. Angost+xQ3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-28 15:57:40
>>13of40+E2
I think you are asked about whether you want to use Siri/Safari suggestion at phone set-up time, but I may be wrong on that.
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