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The title is a little clickbaity - the behaviour can be changed:

“ Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that. ”

Having said that, Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators.

>>trolli+(OP)
That is very annoying. On s related note I personally hate how I need to enter the settings of every app on my phone to tell them not to use the embedded browser? Why would I ever want to use something which is not my default browser? The only scenario I csn see is offering to open in private browsing but still in my browser or something like tor. Just some web view makes no sense.

And this is similar. There is no non-malicious use case for this setting that I can see.

>>trolli+(OP)
The only reason I realized this was a thing is because a coworker blew past the initial popup about the behavior and couldnt figure out what the hell was going on.

Users don't pay attention to this stuff. And then when you have to go back and switch it to the correct behavior of using the default browser, they've buried the option in Outlook (Options > Advanced > Link Handling).

>>trolli+(OP)
It can, although having just received it this morning, it definitely changes first and asks you to roll it back afterwards, rather than being opt-in. It's still obnoxious.

>>trolli+(OP)
Shitty behavior isn't excusable just because there's a setting to disable it.

>>trolli+(OP)
It's not. The title is about the default behavior. Being able to manually change it in an ad-hoc manner, not in the default os settings, confirms the title is correct.

>>trolli+(OP)
Absolutely a conference room decision to try to push more people to their browser. Apple see their OSes as a way to sell hardware. Microsoft very clearly sees their OS as a way to sell ads. I was hopeful for a sec as aspects of Windows got better and better, but the amount of junk that's appeared lately really feels user hostile. I don't want to "stay up to date with news and interests" in the dang start menu. No one ever has.

>>jeltz+y
On Android at least, browsers can also provide the "embedded" overlay, and Fennec, Vivaldi, etc. all do, so it's not really necessary to mess with app settings, changing the system default browser is enough.

On iOS, it's mandatory, because Apple says so.

>>trolli+(OP)
Windows already has a default browser setting. I don't see how Microsoft making Outlook by default ignore that is okay.

>>Sakos+z8
I never stated it was ok. It’s not :)

>>trolli+(OP)
Chrome got to do it with Gmail/etc. when they were ramping up, so I don't see the issue with Edge doing it.

Edge has another funny behavior where if you go to a Chrome extension page, it says you can install the extension. However, Chrome puts a web-page warning over the install button to block it and try to get you to install Chrome again.

It's clear companies value being your default browser.

>>trolli+(OP)
> Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators

On the "FedEx Accused of Largest Odometer Rollback Fraud" post, llimos says "When did we move to a "do whatever you think you can get away with" model of society?" [0].

Like light_hue_1 says in response, "Because the cost of fraud is far too low and it's now factored into business plans." That seems to be exactly what is happening here too. It's honestly disheartening.

[0]: >>36492496

>>trolli+(OP)
> this experience isn't right for you

What kind of post-Orwellian shitfuckery is this? It really grinds my gears when a prompt puts words in your mouth (e.g. "Yes, please" or "No thanks, maybe later") but this reaches a new level by trying to reframe something as simple as wilfully ignoring a stated preference. It sounds like a modern car ad in that it's all about catering to you the "main character" writing your own story and presenting themselves as the facilitators of your perfect customised destiny.

But they're just trying to change your browser and hope you have enough to worry about that you won't notice and their metric will tick up.

>>noahjk+Vd
> the cost of fraud is far too low

If we want to live in a society that's not supported by tech that's weaponized against its users, we need to find better ways to fight back than smugly switching to Linux.

Walking away while they prey on our friends is insufficient. Whatever it is, it has to be costly. Bonus points if it's legal.