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1. sergio+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-13 09:55:00
Comparing the suicide rate of those groups with middle aged white men (adjusted for the population size) is a bit silly. Some sources point to 40% of trans people having attempted suicide, and I don't think 40% of middle aged men have attempted suicide.

In absolute numbers the suicide rate among men is an epidemic, but it's not fair to equate the two populations...

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2. flippi+Y7[view] [source] 2023-06-13 11:04:56
>>sergio+(OP)
Uh. Ok so one groups rate of successful suicide is more important than the others. Gotcha. At least we can agree that it is an epidemic among white middle aged men.
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3. ruszki+w9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 11:20:02
>>flippi+Y7
The mentioned statistics are not comparable, so there is no "more importance" regarding this.
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4. flippi+Wn[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 12:38:32
>>ruszki+w9
As if.
5. jstarf+0J1[view] [source] 2023-06-13 18:21:47
>>sergio+(OP)
Comparing rate of suicide to frequency of suicide attempts is dishonest. Histrionics grossly inflate the "attempt" rate. The most-dramatic demographic (teenagers) only succeeds 15% of the time, with 12.4% of teenaged girls attempting (5.3% for boys). Anything qualifies!

I've got one who "attempted" suicide as a fucking negotiation tactic-- literally, "give me what I want or I'll kill myself." She's not trans, just Karen incarnate, and had no problems appropriating their "life-affirming care" argument to secure concessions for herself.

Small wonder these numbers are so high-- it's a bullshit metric.

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6. erhaet+pE3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 05:48:41
>>jstarf+0J1
Fwiw, sometimes they follow through.
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