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1. whitep+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-13 08:18:02
> "Always be surrounded by love..." unless you are gay. Gay, trans, atheist, feminist, brown, an opioid addict, a questioner of authority, or otherwise different.

Or a middle-aged white man. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/

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2. sergio+bb[view] [source] 2023-06-13 09:55:00
>>whitep+(OP)
Comparing the suicide rate of those groups with middle aged white men (adjusted for the population size) is a bit silly. Some sources point to 40% of trans people having attempted suicide, and I don't think 40% of middle aged men have attempted suicide.

In absolute numbers the suicide rate among men is an epidemic, but it's not fair to equate the two populations...

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3. flippi+9j[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 11:04:56
>>sergio+bb
Uh. Ok so one groups rate of successful suicide is more important than the others. Gotcha. At least we can agree that it is an epidemic among white middle aged men.
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4. ruszki+Hk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 11:20:02
>>flippi+9j
The mentioned statistics are not comparable, so there is no "more importance" regarding this.
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5. flippi+7z[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 12:38:32
>>ruszki+Hk
As if.
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6. jstarf+bU1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 18:21:47
>>sergio+bb
Comparing rate of suicide to frequency of suicide attempts is dishonest. Histrionics grossly inflate the "attempt" rate. The most-dramatic demographic (teenagers) only succeeds 15% of the time, with 12.4% of teenaged girls attempting (5.3% for boys). Anything qualifies!

I've got one who "attempted" suicide as a fucking negotiation tactic-- literally, "give me what I want or I'll kill myself." She's not trans, just Karen incarnate, and had no problems appropriating their "life-affirming care" argument to secure concessions for herself.

Small wonder these numbers are so high-- it's a bullshit metric.

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7. hayst4+Ql2[view] [source] 2023-06-13 20:09:01
>>whitep+(OP)
Middle aged white men can be almost any of those things I listed.

It floors me that you aren't flagged.

Not because you mentioned middle aged white men (which I am), but because I am talking about reasons people get kicked out of the usually conservative communities they grow up in. Being a middle aged white man is not one of those reasons.

Middle aged white men can choose their community. Being an atheist I was kicked out of mine.

There's a difference between not choosing a community and not being welcome in it.

Your response reeks of "white lives matter" to me.

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8. whitep+VO2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 21:51:05
>>hayst4+Ql2
You try to measure the levels of suffering based on sex, race and sexual orientation. That is why you will not be taken seriously by people who think.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gay+pride - that looks like there is no community for feminists, gay and trans?

You mentioning you being an atheist is just a cherry on top.

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9. erhaet+AP3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 05:48:41
>>jstarf+bU1
Fwiw, sometimes they follow through.
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