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1. eastbo+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-13 04:56:25
Interesting topic.

When you are socially underdeveloped, the strange sheep, the sightly bullied, the not-taken seriously, well it’s not so bad to go twice around the globe a few years and come back.

There’s debate. I’ve lost a lot of social fabric. I’m workaholic because I don’t have enough friends. But I’m millionaire, own my startup, own my house, and I can get advice on how to manage at work, get a psychologist, etc.

It’s not ideal, and ideally people would have recognized talent at home and/or just included me because I was a living person, but they didn’t seem to have this ethics. Travelling the world taught me what was necessary to give me the social chances that everyone had at home. Now I have weight. I’m not sure I’d have anyone’s respect without money and travels.

So: When home is broken anyway, do follow some dream, yours or not, travelling wasn’t even a dream for me, it will make you a broken soul with broken social fabric, but with more experience.

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2. noisy_+8g[view] [source] 2023-06-13 06:58:38
>>eastbo+(OP)
> When you are socially underdeveloped, the strange sheep, the sightly bullied, the not-taken seriously, well it’s not so bad to go twice around the globe a few years and come back.

Being someone who has the odd combination of seeing problems everywhere and yet willing to take risks, it was great for me to do so and break out of my cycle/neighbourhood/city and do things nobody in my family (and extended family) bothered to do. Some things spectacularly failed and left scars that will last a lifetime but taking those risks brought me to places/experiences and gave me a life radically different from my peers in my school/family/background. Its not radical as in taking war time photos as a profession and volunteering for UN between projects, but, sufficiently different from what most people back home are doing.

The trick is to take risks that you have thought about and are convinced about; so even when they don't work out, you are not cursing yourself that you did something you were not 100% willing to do.

3. saiya-+ek[view] [source] 2023-06-13 07:31:03
>>eastbo+(OP)
Travelling will make you a broken soul? Then we must have been doing a very different kind of travelling around the world, for me it was the exact opposite. Literally the most enlighting experiences in my life, tons of personal growth.

And you meet tons of people even if you don't want to, do some cool extreme shit with them which can form bonds much stronger than years of just sitting next to each other in some cubicle/open space.

4. hzay+Hk[view] [source] 2023-06-13 07:35:21
>>eastbo+(OP)
> it will make you a broken soul with broken social fabric, but with more experience.

I didn't expect this :( Why are you this way? Reading your comment until that point, I thought you'd figured life out.

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5. ilyt+wl[view] [source] 2023-06-13 07:41:24
>>eastbo+(OP)
> It’s not ideal, and ideally people would have recognized talent at home and/or just included me because I was a living person, but they didn’t seem to have this ethics.

What an egotistical thing to say. You're not entitled to have people waste time trying to "be friends with you" just because you're financially successful

> I’m workaholic because I don’t have enough friends.

You don't make friends and are workaholic because of it.

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6. ensoco+Am[view] [source] 2023-06-13 07:48:48
>>eastbo+(OP)
Completely agree with your perspective. Life is about making choices, and sometimes breaking out requires sacrificing certain aspects of our lives to gain momentum. When you dare to think and act differently, you become the odd one out, and your community may not accept you. But if you do break out and succeed, you reap the rewards you deserve, such as wealth and a home. However, it's often impossible to go back to the roots you left behind without even realizing it during the breakout. Personal growth happens along the way, even if others fail to see or understand it. Ultimately, it's crucial to trust your instincts and listen to your gut when deciding whether to break out or not. Thank you for this interesting discussion - inspiring.
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7. eastbo+Cm[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 07:48:51
>>ilyt+wl
You see, I’ve proven that I’m a good person in many occasions, despite naysayers.

Now if we all must collude to make women in tech succeed, then surely we can include me at an improv group.

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8. eastbo+Hn[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 07:56:17
>>hzay+Hk
Haha you expected a fairy tale. Real life is harder and never clean-cut.

But the good news is when a man embraces difficulty, isn’t it?

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9. projec+wp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 08:11:08
>>hzay+Hk
He does now have all the tools at his disposal to fix it. It’s not so bad.
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10. ilyt+Gp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 08:12:01
>>eastbo+Cm
Sorry I can't differentiate whether that was sarcasm or more self-ego stroking
11. trepri+ku[view] [source] 2023-06-13 08:48:08
>>eastbo+(OP)
I traveled around the world for over a year because I wanted to experience more cultures - I found the same problems of humanity basically everywhere just in different shades. Anyway, a hack for you - if you want immediate respect, gain some muscles. It's possible your current presence is non-threatening and people subconsciously undervalue you due to the first impression.
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12. loa_in+Xy[view] [source] 2023-06-13 09:32:45
>>eastbo+(OP)
Are you sure you're not trading your willingness to make more genuine human connections for the convenience of a psychologist?
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13. mtizim+lB[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 09:52:45
>>ilyt+wl
What awful things to say.
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14. ilyt+XE[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 10:28:07
>>mtizim+lB
What other response would you expect to someone complaining that people don't like him despise him having money ?
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15. jdslep+CG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 10:42:01
>>ilyt+wl
I think you misunderstand GP's post on a low level, words-and-their-definitions level. The story has a timeline to it, and during the hometown portion they were not wealthy and not discussing wealth yet. Read it more carefully.
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16. hutzli+tJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 11:04:30
>>ilyt+XE
He said people did not like him, because he was different. Did not recognized his talents. Considered him worthless.

With him building up a succesful startup he clearly proofed he has talents. But it sounds like he would have traded some of that working time to get money, to spend time with friends instead. But he seems burned from his childhood experiences.

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17. eastbo+1N[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 11:30:22
>>loa_in+Xy
Ouch, that… is a good point. I really needed one at some point because I had an infinite-loop on negativity, but I need to try to emancipate from that.
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18. moneyw+bl1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 14:28:45
>>trepri+ku
Do you recommended test for this purpose?
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