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1. userbi+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-19 04:38:10
while people in most other countries have zero issues adopting it wholesale

Because on average they don't value personal freedom as much as Americans: There's something innately offputting about the thought of getting on a vehicle that is mostly out of one's own control, along with many others, and being taken somewhere instead of controlling one's own vehicle to a destination.

Obviously, this causes public transit to evolve to a bare minimum service.

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2. loa_in+Q6[view] [source] 2023-05-19 05:47:55
>>userbi+(OP)
There's a story in my (EU) city of when a bus driver near the end of his shift drove the bus up to his house absentmindedly much to surprise of the passengers.
3. Moldot+qe[view] [source] 2023-05-19 07:07:14
>>userbi+(OP)
I think they/we value personal freedom, but in a different way, especially in well designed cities/countries. Being able to get into a train/bus and arrive to destination without the hassle of searching for parking, being concentrated on road, avoid drinking alcohol, and spending a s** ton of money on buying car and fuel and taxes for them, like all this adds up and freedom of movement by car takes other freedoms from the people. Also it's interesting that americans value their freedom of movement so much but bike optimised infra is almost nonexistent and bikes are even more "pro freedom" since you don't need to take exams, register the bike, pay for fuel, you can usually drink some alcohol no problem and in case of ebikes you can charge them at home and ebikes can cover big distances as well but still, US is designed for cars&big cars only
4. archag+zh2[view] [source] 2023-05-19 20:35:53
>>userbi+(OP)
Let me tell you, I’m not feeling so great about my “personal freedom” when I’m circling the block for half an hour trying to find a sliver of parking.
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