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1. acabal+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-18 22:36:04
For those who live in such cities (and not just visit), everything they want to do is a 3-15 minute walk, not a drive. You can get groceries, stop at a cafe, go to a doctor's appointment, and pick up your kids from school (or better yet, they can walk themselves, because their school is nearby and getting killed by speeding SUVs is not a concern) - all within a 15 minute radius. If the walk is truly too far, a metro stop is often nearby.

Living in such places is eye-opening!

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2. carlos+Q5[view] [source] 2023-05-18 23:06:03
>>acabal+(OP)
Sorry, but I really have to ask: Why did you chose 15 minutes specifically as your time frame?
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3. sethri+w8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 23:22:43
>>carlos+Q5
Perhaps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15-minute_city
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4. Symbio+h9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 23:27:10
>>carlos+Q5
Because the comment they are replying to says everything is within a 3-15 minute drive.

(I'll extend it to a ¼—15 minute walk. I happen to live above a kiosk, it is nearer than the car in the basement.)

5. bombca+ZE[view] [source] 2023-05-19 04:24:35
>>acabal+(OP)
I have lived in the USA all my life and I've never been more than 15-20 minute walk from a grocery store of some kind.

And that's in a quite a few areas from pretty dense single-family urban to apartments to what some might call rural.

You can do it but people don't. Hell, walmart is only 30 minute walk away, but I drive most the time. Probably should get my bike fixed and easily accessible ...

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6. the_on+8F[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-19 04:25:46
>>bombca+ZE
I guess it spends where you live. I have done it. Used to have to walk everywhere. Auth the peak, I was walking around 14 miles a day. The walk was short like you mentioned, but I had to cross highway exists over a big hill in scorching humid heat while carrying shit. Not appealing whatsoever.

Frankly the heat is mostly why I stopped walking. I figured at first I might just be out of shape as hell, but I decided to take one today while the rain had cooled down the temperature and it was mostly pleasant. Comparatively I tried to walk the same route a few days back and gave up early because I was drenching in sweat, slunched over, could hardly see in front of me and my head was throbbing.

Infrastructure is a big thing too. When I’ve had to walk in less urban areas with little or no sidewalk, walking on grass next to the road with massive cars zipping past you is unnerving.

7. lotsow+2L[view] [source] 2023-05-19 05:22:57
>>acabal+(OP)
Ok I've done that and still hated it. I've spent weeks staying in apartments in France and Italy with a grocery store on the bottom floor, restaurants, and retail a few blocks away. Good suburbs have these things within walking distance too. It is just a much quieter, calmer walk.
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