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1. bombca+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-18 21:41:17
Until you're poor you don't realize how cheaply you can keep a vehicle running, nor how many people are just driving around without insurance, license, and various other "necessities".
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2. jvican+i2[view] [source] 2023-05-18 21:52:53
>>bombca+(OP)
Isn't it illegal to drive without auto insurance? (At least, in California?)
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3. 650RED+T3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:01:13
>>jvican+i2
Yes it is illegal.

Pretty much illegal everywhere in the US except for a few weird outliers. I think there’s one southern state that lets you have a bond instead of insurance?

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4. Karrot+95[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:06:57
>>jvican+i2
This is the secret underbelly to the car-centric design of the US. People drive illegally all the time. They drive over legal BAC limits, they drive without insurance, they drive unlicensed, they don't pay parking tickets, they drive looking down at their phones and not at the road.

When you're poor and you live in an area completely unserved by public transit and you lose your license because you can't afford to pay parking tickets, are you really going to stop driving and lose your job and become homeless?

We have statistics to show what unlicensed and uninsured driver crash and fatality rates are like and they're a lot higher than the rest of the cohort, but there's still a sizable part of the US population that does all of these things and still uses the same public road infrastructure as everyone else, often out of lack of alternatives.

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5. dustin+J5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:09:54
>>650RED+T3
I was curious so I looked it up, and it seems that 32 states allow surety bonds: https://www.autoinsuresavings.org/surety-bonds-auto-insuranc...
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6. bombca+26[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:11:01
>>jvican+i2
It is illegal in many states. But they average something like 10-30% of all drivers: https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/auto/resources/uninsured...

If you never get pulled over, or you know some tricks, you slide by.

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7. Mister+j9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:27:18
>>jvican+i2
Sure.

And to get your car registered in most states, you usually only have to pass an emissions test, have a valid license, and have proof of insurance at the time that you register the car.

This means that 11 out of 12 months, you get to drive around without insurance.

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8. sokolo+lc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:42:50
>>Mister+j9
I don’t even think having a valid license is a reasonable requirement. I should be able to own and register a car without having a license.

I think you can do this in most states; I know you can in my state (MA).

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9. maxeri+Ac[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:44:12
>>Mister+j9
Laughs in Michigan.
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10. bombca+Cd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-18 22:49:16
>>sokolo+lc
It's actually possible to own a vehicle without registration at all, though they will side-eye you sometimes.

The most common is "farm implement operated incidentally over a highway".

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11. pipers+FW[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-19 05:29:00
>>650RED+T3
New Hampshire is the only state that doesn't require insurance or a bond IIRC
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