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1. zvmaz+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-04-21 15:01:51
Ramadan has little to do with intermittent fasting: the former is a religious prescription enforced by law in some countries [1], the latter is completely up to the individual.

Happy Eid.

[1] https://www-lepoint-fr.translate.goog/monde/algerie-2-ans-de...

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2. axus+Y2[view] [source] 2023-04-21 15:14:17
>>zvmaz+(OP)
Fasting is one of the 5 pillars of Islam. Maybe someone could explain what "non-intermittent" fasting would be?
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3. qntty+n5[view] [source] 2023-04-21 15:24:29
>>zvmaz+(OP)
Intermittent fasting is when you fast intermittently
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4. Jumpin+e7[view] [source] 2023-04-21 15:32:09
>>zvmaz+(OP)
> > enforced by law in some countries

"Enforced by law"...if you want to eat in the privacy of your home that's between yourself and Allah.

And besides...lockdowns were also enforced by law, but the law will never have enough men to police all the population, it would require a 1:1 ratio or thereabout.

That's why the physical world is important as opposed to the virtual world where the ratio can be reduced drastically, that's also why I never understood the fixation with the 2nd amendment beyond a certain treshold more stuff and provisions are only a waste of money.

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5. skinke+g7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 15:32:14
>>axus+Y2
I'd say the difference is if there is some regularity to it.

Intermittent fasting can be fasting Monday to Friday and only eating in the weekends like how I think one HN-er described his 5/2 diet.

It can be OMAD (one meal a day) or something else. The main thing is you fast and stop fasting repeatedly.

None-intermittent fasting is when you just skip food for a day like I did last week or for a few days like I did as a teenager.

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6. broast+Q8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 15:36:47
>>skinke+g7
An important distinction is while fasting for Ramadan, you can't ingest anything at all, including water. Unlike intermittent fasting where practitioners might still have 0 calorie coffee to stay stimulated, and water to stay hydrated.
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7. skinke+qb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 15:46:09
>>broast+Q8
Agreed. I think it is correct to say that Ramadan fasting is intermittent but intermittent fasting is not Ramadan fasting, except the subset of fasting that is Muslims fasting during Ramadan.

I also think some others, among them Christians, fast completely.

Personally I am Christian but when I fast, the vast majority of the times it has been because I was bored or needed to focus, and I didn't punish myself by breaking fast once a day but just went without food a day or two or three until I became bored of that too or family demanded I ate.

8. natrys+6c[view] [source] 2023-04-21 15:49:31
>>zvmaz+(OP)
At least it doesn't seem like the law in question was specifically about enforcing Ramadan, rather a sinister abuse of the general "Blasphamy law"[1] which exists in some non-muslim countries too.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20171211105140/http://freethough...

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9. beebma+oc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 15:50:23
>>Jumpin+e7
I think the point is: should we really be enforcing religious laws in our societies? Seems deeply coercive and unethical
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10. iso163+nd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 15:53:41
>>qntty+n5
Well if going 10 hours (say in Scotland in winter) without food is "fasting", I do that pretty much every day, I rarely eat or drink between 2200 and 0900, and rarely eat between 2000 and about 1230

Not convinced that not drinking water during the day is a good idea, especially in hot countries

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11. Jumpin+Qf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 16:02:17
>>beebma+oc
There will always be somebody who believes in their stuff so much that will try to enforce on others.

And that type of personality usually also aggregates in groups.

You are essentially able to escape from them as long as you are in the physical world, but in the virtual world everything can be policed much more easily.

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12. wincy+dg[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 16:04:23
>>iso163+nd
I roomed with two Saudis in college. They just become nocturnal and sleep all day.
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13. shephe+hg[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 16:04:43
>>iso163+nd
You're right, most people do...

> Breakfast is the first meal of the day usually eaten in the morning. The word in English refers to breaking the fasting period of the previous night.

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14. mdp202+ek[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 16:22:12
>>shephe+hg
To be honest, "breakfast" was more probably originally meant as "breaking the discipline" (see form "fasten"), and only then translated to the action without general involvement of discipline.
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15. iso163+1t[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 16:55:45
>>shephe+hg
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/breakfast-adults-sk...

> One in four adults skip breakfast most days, says survey

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16. iso163+Ow[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 17:09:14
>>wincy+dg
Sounds like the Eruv lines some Jewish communities put up to get away with "breaking the rules", surely it somewhat misses the point
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17. mardif+3O[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-21 18:23:38
>>beebma+oc
You can eat in practically every muslim country during ramadan, if you aren't muslim. It will be hard to find open restaurants during the day, but no one will bother a non-muslim about eating openly.
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18. shephe+A22[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-22 02:07:40
>>iso163+1t
Which means they're participating in a comparatively longer fast
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