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1. cjblac+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-04-05 20:42:16
I'm curious how much excess energy has been consumed, and won't be consumed any longer, as a result of this improvement - even just limited to reduced CPU usage on Windows machines using Firefox to watch Youtube.

I love thinking about the impacts of tiny improvements at scale like this, might do some napkin math on it later and see if I can come up with something in the right order of magnitude.

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2. fsckbo+33[view] [source] 2023-04-05 20:58:48
>>cjblac+(OP)
firefox browser share is teeny tiny these days
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3. tomrod+v3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-05 21:00:57
>>fsckbo+33
Teeny tiny multiplied by 7 Billion by 365 days per year by 24 hours per day by a fraction of a kW does add up.
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4. 2ICofa+x4[view] [source] 2023-04-05 21:06:27
>>cjblac+(OP)
Next: Canadian cars and their daytime running lights.
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5. beAbU+H5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-05 21:13:58
>>tomrod+v3
7B people are not watching youtube on Firefox 24/7 365 days a year.
replies(2): >>mulmen+6f >>tomrod+Qg
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6. wongar+Sd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-05 21:59:20
>>2ICofa+x4
Running lights during daytime seems to reduce crashes by about 5-10%, and crashes consume a lot of energy. Depending on crash severity there's at a minimum the wasted time for all involved parties and frequently the necessity for repairs (including the production of replacement parts, paint etc), and at the high end the involvement of emergency personnel and their vehicles, hospital beds, doctors, the production of entire new cars as replacement for totaled ones, etc.

I'm not so sure that running lights isn't a net positive, especially with the introduction of LED lights.

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7. mulmen+6f[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-05 22:05:48
>>beAbU+H5
But at any given moment someone is.
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8. tomrod+Qg[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-05 22:15:36
>>beAbU+H5
Correct. Some teeny tiny fraction of market share is. For the conceptual calculation, I refer you to my earlier comment.
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9. Wirele+xD[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 00:38:42
>>2ICofa+x4
Even LED DLRs?
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10. jdthed+K01[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 04:04:32
>>tomrod+v3
*8 Billion sir

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

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11. speedg+ai1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 06:54:55
>>2ICofa+x4
Next: internal combustion engines doing more heat than torque.
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12. botani+Rp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 07:51:45
>>fsckbo+33
It's 200 million people, with 80% on Windows.

https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity

https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware

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13. pmontr+ar1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 08:08:08
>>speedg+ai1
That's a feature in winter. Portable propane heaters for cars are a thing. I think they'll sell a lot for EV cars.
replies(1): >>speedg+D02
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14. accoun+4s1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 08:15:47
>>wongar+Sd
On the other hand, crashes also kill people who will then stop be using any energy.
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15. tomrod+8P1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 11:52:20
>>jdthed+K01
Oh no! My mistake.
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16. speedg+D02[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-04-06 13:05:51
>>pmontr+ar1
I don’t know. It’s not a thing in Norway and we have plenty of gaz, electric cars, and cold weather.
17. sixoth+3n5[view] [source] 2023-04-07 12:10:24
>>cjblac+(OP)
Now calculate the man years lost to fixing strings represented as exponents in excel.
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