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1. Samoye+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-19 04:34:50
<I deleted a paragraph where I stated an unnuanced claim about canceling.>

The thing with hogwarts legacy is that the minorities who are affected are like 1% of the population. Even if 100% of them loudly proclaimed anything anywhere on any social media platform, it would barely affect anything simply because they’re so small compared to the rest of the population. This is in the same sense that only a minority of the population are severely immunocompromised to the point where Covid is still a threat, and the lack of masking and other safety precautions actually makes their lives significantly worse but because they’re so small their voices literally don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

That is to say I don’t attribute the lack of irl effect to social media but due to demographic size. There’s simply no possible way for a minority of such a small size to make any waves happen anywhere, not even on anything as small as a popular video game.

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2. joseph+f3[view] [source] 2023-02-19 05:04:16
>>Samoye+(OP)
I think I disagree with both of your points:

> There’s simply no possible way for a minority of such a small size to make any waves happen anywhere, not even on anything as small as a popular video game.

There's an old quote - "Never assume a small group of dedicated individuals can't change the world. Its the only thing that ever has."

The radical left - for all that they're championing the rights of a small group of people, has been very effective at kicking up a fuss about diversity, inclusion and trans rights. It doesn't feel like a tiny fringe movement:

- Apparently most researchers and professors at a lot of universities now need to make "diversity and inclusion statements". Stanford is banning a lot of language. So is Google and other big companies.

- Authors like Roald Dahl are having their work retroactively edited to "meet modern norms".

- The pushback against this stuff is becoming a major rallying call for America's right. Now the american conservatives accomplished most of their big policy objectives in most states (concealed carry, banned abortions, etc). What can they use to "energize the base"? Fighting this stuff is being turned into a tool to get conservatives to the polls. (Source: The economist podcast.)

I'm not sure what the lived experience has become for trans people - but the fight for trans rights (as part of the fight for diversity and inclusion) seems to have made massive waves all over the place.

> The thing with hogwarts legacy is that the minorities who are affected are like 1% of the population.

The only people affected by your decision to buy Hogwarts Legacy are the developers involved. I promise you, JK Rowling won't notice the extra 50 cents in her pocket if you buy, or don't buy the game.

If you want to support trans people, do that by supporting them. The lives of trans people are unaffected by your steam purchasing decisions.

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3. Samoye+f5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 05:26:04
>>joseph+f3
You’re going off about a lot of stuff but all I’m saying is that if even 100% of all trans people loudly proclaimed they wanted to be against the Harry Potter game they probably wouldn’t accomplish shit just because they’re such a small population. I mean literally we have laws being passed in some states to ban all of 2 trans kids (in the entire state) from participating in sports. It’s not like they can do anything to defend themselves here.
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4. pasqui+V6[view] [source] 2023-02-19 05:45:12
>>Samoye+(OP)
i think people have gotten a lot more aware and accepting of trans people in the last couple decades. i think the real reason why people don't seem to be bothered by the harry potter game is because most people get that whatever j.k. rowling thinks or says or does doesn't really harm trans people, that she didn't make the game, and that playing a game is just playing a game.

actually, i take that back: most people don't know about j.k. rowling's opinions. and even so over the last couple decades they've become much more aware and accepting of trans people.

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5. zirgs+4a[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 06:31:30
>>Samoye+f5
If you ban someone from reddit or twitter - their opinions only disappear from your echo chamber not from the real world. Maybe echo chambers aren't such a good idea after all.

Those people banned every single dissenting opinion and after a while started to think that their opinions are way more popular than they actually are.

"Everybody around here thinks that JKR is bad - so surely our boycott is going to be successful - I don't see anyone who disagrees."

If anything - this ridiculous hate campaign against JKR could decrease the support for trans people.

6. unmole+fR[view] [source] 2023-02-19 14:19:03
>>Samoye+(OP)
> The thing with hogwarts legacy is that the minorities who are affected are like 1% of the population.

There is not a single person anywhere in the world who is negatively affected by Hogwarts Legacy.

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7. ryandr+ee1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 16:46:08
>>unmole+fR
I don't understand the drama around that video game, and at this point, I don't think I want to understand what it's about. I did a few Internet searches and it's totally unclear what's wrong with the game, or what minorities are portrayed badly in it. The best I've come up with is: "The game is based on a fictional world written by an author who tweeted something bad, and even though the author has nothing to do with the game, we're going to boycott the game." Is that really all there is to it?
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8. Gigach+gZ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 21:34:34
>>ryandr+ee1
That’s it.
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9. red-ir+4E3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-20 14:37:19
>>joseph+f3
> - Authors like Roald Dahl are having their work retroactively edited to "meet modern norms".

This was done by his estate, as a way to sell more books and/or to get it made as a netflix series. Capitalism drove this decision, not 'wokeness'

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