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1. swatco+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-19 00:28:30
Those of us who grew up near various religious communities in the second half of the twentieth century are familiar with the edited and abridged versions of media made to be more palatable to the morals of whichever community, as well as the scandals over media which were an affront to them for whatever reason.

Obviously, a publisher committed to those communities and who can get the rights to do so will make a “clean” versions for them. For better or worse, it happens all the time.

The only news here is in whose morals are behind expressed in the edits, because we had gotten used to it just being a religion thing and forgot that secular morals can run just as puritanical.

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2. oska+A6[view] [source] 2023-02-19 01:29:02
>>swatco+(OP)
> and forgot that secular morals can run just as puritanical

I'd suggest that it is a new religion being satisfied here, that of 'wokeism'.

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3. boppo1+Z6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 01:34:58
>>oska+A6
'Authoritarian Progressivism' is a better term going forward I think. It better specifies the set of beliefs and the formality is harder to dismiss.
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4. oska+T9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 01:56:16
>>boppo1+Z6
Cheers. I put the word in quotes to indicate my use was not necessarily an endorsement of the term. And even though it is the most commonly used label and probably the one that's going to stick, I do like your alternative. Yours is probably a better one for discussion of the movement in more academic or formal contexts.
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5. tgbugs+fa[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 01:58:35
>>oska+A6
I prefer waux, as in faux.
6. dragon+De[view] [source] 2023-02-19 02:34:55
>>swatco+(OP)
> he only news here is in whose morals are behind expressed in the edits, because we had gotten used to it just being a religion thing

Who is “we”? Those of us who remember the stories of, say, every English edition of Mein Kampf (every one of which either deleted from or added to, often both, the German edition for propaganda purposes, whether it was making the Nazi program more palatable to the West or less), did not.

7. NDizzl+Rf[view] [source] 2023-02-19 02:42:38
>>swatco+(OP)
Can you give me an example of whatever community it is that you grew up in?

Me? Rural northern Arkansas. Dry county. Unaffected by these edited/abridged version of media.

In other words, Han shot first in my day, sonny.

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8. throw_+4j[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 03:13:25
>>oska+A6
> I'd suggest that it is a new religion being satisfied here, that of 'wokeism'.

It certainly is a cult since it works exactly like one, it has rules, a unquestionable creed ("diversity and inclusion"), struggle sessions where members have to admit their "crimes" in public like "their privileges", a hierarchy between its members (the pyramid of oppression), a caste that is above any criticism whatsoever, blasphemy, lists of forbidden words, and shunning of its members when they do something deemed "insensitive".

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9. swatco+dk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 03:24:27
>>NDizzl+Rf
That’s more personal than I like to share here, but vaguely I was in the rural Northeast while a rising tide of born-again Baptist churches absorbed Catholic and mainline Protestant communities. Maybe it was more obvious to me because of the flux.

In any case, you must at least remember Wal-mart’s role in demanding “clean” versions of rap and hip hop content (and punk) as those genres went mainstream. That was happening at a national level and persists to this day in all of our streaming services.

The genres had underground roots and artists were not devoted to satisfying the word or theme preferences of the Walton family’s target demographic, but producers and studios knew that obliging them with alternate versions was a compromise that paid worthwhile dividends.

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10. jccalh+3l[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 03:32:31
>>NDizzl+Rf
If you have ever watched a movie that was originally rated-R when it was on basic cable or broadcast tv then you have almost certainly seen abridged or edited verions of films. Or grew up watching Tom and Jerry or Warner Brothers cartoons on Saturday morning.
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11. NDizzl+Zl[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 03:39:37
>>swatco+dk
Interesting, but I think misplaced. That all started in the 80s, Tipper Gore and the PMRC.

“Adjusted for television” or for play over the radio were broadcast standards that still exist.

Hell, I’m somewhat thankful for them. We had an issue at one of the youth sports games last fall. Music played between innings. The quote that came out of that one was, “I thought E meant ‘everyone’.

Yes, I know stuff is adjusted for broadcast, “find a stranger in the alps” still cracks me up. That’s not the same as not being able to describe tractors as black, or fat people as fat.

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12. boppo1+3m[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 03:40:11
>>oska+T9
Thanks! And I agree, 'woke' isn't going anywhere.
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