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1. readon+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-08 20:01:40

  a) I don't understand the relevance at all to Hacker News. There are plenty of interesting things going on in the tech world that aren't making the front page.
an incredible amount of tech is involved in these pipelines, building them, blowing them up, figuring out who blew them up, etc.

the war/defense industry is the foundation of all US technology:

https://thirdworldtraveler.com/Chomsky/PentagonSystem_Chom.h...

ukraine is a massive test ground for us weapons/tech -- including operations which don't occur strictly in Ukrainian territory.

and, the world might be over any day now because of the war, so there's always that.

is there a HN in heaven/hell?

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2. hef198+R[view] [source] 2023-02-08 20:04:40
>>readon+(OP)
Blowing them up requires either a shaped charge or C4 or some other explosive. Hardly high tech.
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3. anigbr+2a[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-08 20:37:12
>>hef198+R
The social & physical infrastructure is the story here, not the fact that explosives go boom - although if you don't think explosives are technologically interesting, perhaps that means you just don't know much about them.
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4. hef198+ob[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-08 20:42:02
>>anigbr+2a
I know you can throw C4 into a camp fire without any risk of it going boom, does that count?
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5. Maursa+Hc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-08 20:46:22
>>hef198+R
How about a torpedo? I seriously doubt:

     1) The US would wait 7 months after Russia invaded Ukraine
     2) The US would risk Navy divers for such a petty operation achievable without risking valuable personal
     3) The US would not simultaneously detonate (17 hour delay between? wtf)
     4) President Biden would not have immediately after taken the opportunity to interrupt broadcast and cable programming to remind us how tough he is. 
When you ask yourself who hates the Russians more than anyone else in the world, and when that coincidentally happens to be the same as who benefits economically the most from NS1 & NS2 destroyed, there's only one answer[1], and it isn't Norway, and it isn't Denmark, and it can't be the US. Russia annoys the US, but the US and its citizens do not hate Russia. And US benefits exactly nothing economically from this, and in a global economy, it probably hurts US.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe

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6. anigbr+cd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-08 20:47:43
>>hef198+ob
Somewhat, but I still think you're being overly dismissive. The story is not expressing wonder at how a thick metal cylinder could be damaged by a relatively small explosion or how a bomb could go off under water where it's hard to light a fire.
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7. runner+Tj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-08 21:13:12
>>Maursa+Hc
> How about a torpedo?

Likely pieces of the torpedo could be found and traced back to American manufacture.

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8. Maursa+xw[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-08 22:05:21
>>runner+Tj
Likely? If Russia spends the considerable resources to send down their own deep sea divers, they can just as easily find trace residues of the C4 or whatever was used and trace that to its origin as well. And how would they trace a Russian torpedo?
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