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1. eric_c+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-16 14:22:10
> It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics.

I think it’s you that’s missing the point here. It’s only abuse of power if the rule against doxxing is invalid. So it does come down to the rule and whether or not doxxing is acceptable. If we decide that doxxing is acceptable and posting anybody’s real-time location data is acceptable (without their consent), then he is abusing powers. If that is your conclusion, then you don’t have the right to complain should it happen to you. If you believe the opposite, that doxxing is unacceptable, then the rule should apply equally to everybody. Critics and journalists do not get a free pass to break the rules.

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2. Jeremy+R7[view] [source] 2022-12-16 14:59:26
>>eric_c+(OP)
> If we decide that doxxing is acceptable and posting anybody’s real-time location data is acceptable (without their consent), then he is abusing powers. If that is your conclusion, then you don’t have the right to complain should it happen to you.

This really does not follow. We already have plenty of exceptions for what is appropriate when reporting on public versus private figures in other aspects of life. As Musk himself has demonstrated, "absolutism" of any sort is a difficult view to hold when one's feet are put to the fire, and nuance is actually important.

Even if you think that reporting on Elon's plane (or in the case here, the "reporting on the reporting" on Elon's plane) should be forbidden, I would suggest that this development is still difficult to defend. This is a reversal in policy that Elon made because it was about him personally.

Are you sure Elon will continue to agree with you on who/what to censor in the future?

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3. Fnoord+vc[view] [source] 2022-12-16 15:20:10
>>eric_c+(OP)
Nobody is posting his whereabouts; someone wrote a bot which grabs public API data which was pulled from ADS-B (which you can receive with a 20 EUR DVB-T receiver) which includes his private jet. His private jet may or may not contain him, and his whereabouts after he left his plane are not included. F.e. if he used a public transport, nobody would post his whereabouts automatically on Twitter.
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4. eric_c+Hw[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 16:47:50
>>Jeremy+R7
> Are you sure Elon will continue to agree with you on who/what to censor in the future?

I am 100% sure that I WON’T agree and that Twitter is inherently flawed pre-Elon and post-Elon.

The only point I was making is that within the context of this flawed system, given a rule is broken, it should not matter who the rule breaker is. “Silence opponents” narrative is only true if the people being silenced are being treated unequally. If they are, then the narrative is true.

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5. eric_c+0y[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 16:52:23
>>Fnoord+vc
I understand regarding the jet account. Here are the sources I was using for my comment:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603587970832793600

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737

Here he is claiming that his pinpoint location was shared and that the rule in place is against sharing real-time location data.

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6. zeebee+rP[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 18:06:49
>>eric_c+0y
That doesn't really mesh with the actual bans that happened though which were all related to sharing the ElonJet account.
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7. PM_me_+ZW[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 18:44:09
>>Jeremy+R7
So when do we get a live feed on the positions of you and your family?
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