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1. astero+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-16 04:04:50
Did these "attack" include realtime doxxing? Especially after TOS modified to prohibit it?

Or can you give other examples of disparity between free speech rule applications for themselves and people they don't like?

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2. cmh89+B[view] [source] 2022-12-16 04:09:01
>>astero+(OP)
>Did these "attack" include realtime doxxing? Especially after TOS modified to prohibit it?

Posting public information publicly isn't doxxing and until you give up that falsehood, there isn't really anywhere the conversation can go.

Of course a free speech "absolutist" like Musk is a complete hypocrite for not allowing doxxing in the first place.

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3. richbe+K[view] [source] 2022-12-16 04:10:13
>>astero+(OP)
It is disingenuous to call sharing publicly available information about an airplane's travel "realtime doxing".
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4. astero+m1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:13:17
>>richbe+K
Why? If one wants to harass Musk, meeting him at the airport is convenient.
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5. astero+T1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:16:48
>>cmh89+B
> Posting public information publicly isn't doxxing

Sometimes it is.

For example, name plate on the mailbox is publicly available, but posting the address with full name online constitutes doxxing.

> a free speech "absolutist" like Musk is a complete hypocrite

One guy once said, who never changes his/her opinion, is a moron.

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6. cmh89+u2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:20:26
>>astero+T1
The mental gymnastics that folks go to excuse Musk's behavior will get ever more absurd.

Musk will continue to censor speech he doesn't like arbitrarily and use Twitter to promote right-wing extremists who will then hurt real people in the real world.

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7. VicFra+F2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:21:47
>>astero+m1
Is there any evidence this has ever happened? I have to believe that if it has, he would have brought it up.
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8. kevinm+43[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:24:15
>>astero+T1
Musk's definition of free speech in the past included calling his critics pedophiles and making false statements about his company's stock. Now it doesn't include publicly available information about the location of a vehicle he owns?
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9. EFreet+V4[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:37:23
>>astero+T1
> One guy once said, who never changes his/her opinion, is a moron.

You might be referring to JM Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind."

The question is what facts are changing? Here, it looks like the only difference is that something bad happened to HIM.

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10. EFreet+85[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:38:38
>>astero+m1
If you can afford a private jet, you can probably afford a bodyguard.

There are a few people with less money than Mush who have bodyguards.

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11. DSMan1+H9[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 05:07:10
>>astero+m1
Clearly nothing is stopping someone from doing that anyway, but also nobody ever knows if Elon is actually on any of the three planes tracked (unless he posts about where he's going or where he is). They're not even his personal planes, they're owned by his companies and used by other people. If he's that worried about a stalker he should just charter a jet instead of flying on jets associated with him or his companies, then nobody would know.
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12. Bryant+5s[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 07:24:22
>>astero+m1
It’s worth noting that the tracker doesn’t post destinations until, of course, the plane actually lands. You cannot use the data provided to determine where to meet him.
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13. astero+vI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 16:37:15
>>cmh89+u2
> use Twitter to promote right-wing extremists

I did not see evidence of that.

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14. astero+UI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 16:39:11
>>EFreet+V4
No, I'm referring to the other guys.

People change mind even if facts do not change.

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15. cmh89+ew3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 02:02:16
>>astero+vI1
Musk has in the past and very recently supported conspiracy theories. Dr. Fauci, one of the greatest public servants we've had in this country, was accused by Musk of 'killing millions'.

Musk is a right-wing extremist who will protect his own.

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16. astero+iN5[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 21:10:07
>>cmh89+ew3
You use very uncommon (or I'd say, left-leaning) definition of "extremism". Basically, expressing opinion you disagree with, is extremism.
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