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Living peacefully in society is fundamentally at odds with the position you're advocating for, which is enforced slavery to a particular technological innovation.

People can survive without a couch on their lawn, and there are alternatives to couches on lawns that don't require the use of a particular technology. But people need dry clothes, and the only alternative to air drying is to use a particular kind of machine. It's some Black Mirror shit.

>>torste+(OP)
Yeah slavery is definitely the best word choice here. And it’s actually enforced slavery, you say? Even worse!

>>torste+(OP)
Yeah people should be able to have bon fires on their front lawn to cook the animal carcass they have hanging in the front yard tree because they shouldn't be enslaved by fridges and stoves.

They should be able to bath themselves in the front yard by pouring water from they collected from a nearby creek over themselves because showers are slavery.

It's ok for people to tan animal hides in their front yard because the clothing store requires transportation which is just slavery.

I'm going to have torches inside and out because light bulbs enslave me.

I'm thinking about joining an Amish community because the machines I own have ended up owning me.

>>nemo44+Yh
Actually, yes, in the absence of hurting other people, people should generally be free to do what they like on their own property, even if other people don't like it.

And yes, forcing other people to do or not-do what you want, by force of law and without regard for their own agency, is incompatible with freedom.

>>torste+Is
OK I'm going to buy property next door to you and store hundreds of drums of crude oil on it. That's OK?

Hmmm, I think there's a thing called "reason" here, as in being "reasonable".

no, we live in communities of people. We are not atomic units but rather a part of a community and the community decides what's OK and what isn't. If you can't abide by it then you need to find another community that agrees with you or move to a rural area where you can isolate yourself. In fact, I hope there is a community with no zoning or restrictions on what you can do on your property so people like you feel like you have a place. Maybe it becomes so successful everyone wants to transition to that.

Or maybe we've come up with these rules for good reason. Ever consider that?

>>nemo44+7y
I actually agree. When people can't abide anti-freedom attitudes, they should part ways. Luckily, that's exactly what my country has done.

Since this is a story about the U.S., I ask that you try to view it through the appropriate cultural lens, rather than imposing your own.

>>torste+ZA
I am an American and I am currently residing in America. And where I live and everywhere near me, there's no way they'd allow you to park on your lawn, etc. We have a democratically elected council which is empowered to create town ordinances and things like this fall under these ordinances.

For instance, we don't allow "trash and debris" and plant life can't be "overgrown" and your property must be kept clean and free of garbage". Things can't be "unsightly" or in disrepair. There's a bunch of ordinances that apply to these things.

If you disagree with it you can:

1) Plea to the council and/or campaign to elect someone who will change the ordinances

2) Move