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I love hating on moderation and I'm always ready to be critical of it, and of dang, if it's warranted. But I will say "monarchy is bad" comments are boring and don't lead to interesting discussion. There's a million other places to express that if you want.

>>93po+(OP)
But hundreds of comments repeating the most boring things like "she will be missed" aren't better left for the I Love Being Ruled Over Facebook Group?

>>encryp+Je
(That's pretty funny.)

This is the point I was trying to make at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32769925 by quoting pg's 15-year-old bit about how empty positive comments aren't so bad (https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html). It's true that they don't contain any more information than empty negative comments, but they don't degrade the threads the way empty negative comments do.

Unfortunately people took that as some sort of pro-monarchist stance!

>>93po+(OP)
> I love hating on moderation and I'm always ready to be critical of it, and of dang

That's an oddly positive attitude to hatred.

>>dang+KQ
All advocates of temperance and moderation are preservers of the status quo. Therefore advocates of change naturally fall afoul of the moderators.

>>dang+KQ
Who decides what's "empty positive" vs "empty negative"? What you frame as pro-monarchist vs anti- can be as easily framed as anti-egalitarian vs pro-egalitarian. So anti-egalitarian empty comments were allowed, while pro-egalitarian ones were held to a higher standard.

"Empty" praises and supports for one side of the position - a political position in a complex issue, not just "Thanks" like PG writes - are not really empty, they're the tools of populist campaigns.

>>teddyh+O41
They certainly do when their advocacy takes the form of sneering.

>>ycombi+BU
Sort of tongue in cheek, but the visible effects of moderation are awful in 90% of circumstances across the internet. Granted we don't see the benefit of the non-visible parts, but on reddit especially there are endless stories of communities being ruined by moderation, and moderation being used to force community behavior that suit the moderator's agendas.

There instances, like HN, where the platform isn't trying to be used for making money or pushing an agenda. Moderation on this tends to be good, but that set of circumstances is rare

>>encryp+Je
I will accept boring positivity over boring negativity any day, and as dang responded, that is basically his approach here too. I think boring comments in general should be dissuaded but frankly this post on HN was never going to generate much interesting convo anyway

>>tptace+Ob2
Tone policing is a form of moderation.

>>teddyh+hh3
Yes, of course it is.