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I hope PINE64 doesn't fail, they did great before and I think they could continue being great.

luckily postmarketOS existed before the PinePhone and can easily exist after, the pine devices isn't even the majority of devices we support.

>>Martij+(OP)
As someone who's more familiar with PINE64 than the rest of us, are you as confused as I am? I've noticed minor red flags slowly building up over time and at least from here there are some major inconsistencies with their stated vision and where they seem to actively be going. I think I started seeing it somewhere around the PPP announcement.

I really want them to succeed but I have a hard time making sense of them lately.

>>Martij+(OP)
AFAIK the pine devices are the only ones you support that are not a big pain to install. I have a few old android phones that you "support", but when I looked at what I had to do to install I decided it was too much effort. Pine devices claimed to be easier because you just throw in a SD card and go (of course the fact that the new ones are not this is why you left)

>>bluGil+k2
Flashing pmOS is not very different from flashing any other Android-native ROM. Of course it's more involved than simply booting from external storage (though some Android devices can use "fastboot boot" to achieve something similar), but it's pretty standard all things considered.

>>bluGil+k2
I would like the process for android phones with postmarketOS to be easier. In the end for a lot of these devices you have to work around vendor weirdness.

Luckily it seems like SHIFT Phones is actually improving the situation, they actually have one of their developers helping out with the kernel development and the device is not terribly hard to get postmarketOS on and I think it'll only get easier to dual boot that device in the future. Sadly the SHIFT 6mq that is supported is also not nearly as cheap as a PinePhone. Hopefully we can get similar levels of support on their cheaper mediatek devices.

>>Martij+15
Damn, somehow SHiFT phones have been flying completely under my radar. The SHiFT 6mq looks amazing if it'd be feasible to get pmOS running on it. A quick search yield a lot of results, all in German.

Do you think it's realistic to expect the power situation to be(come) better than it is on the PPP today?

>>3np+Q6
I think it already is better than the PPP. Also the SDM845 is very very fast and a lot more power efficient compared to the current pine64 offerings.

A few postmarketOS developers are working on improving the support for the SHIFT hardware and it seems to be going great.

>>3np+Q6
See [1]. You can use Firefox Translations to translate the website locally.

It goes for 655 EUR and has AMOLED, a feature I miss with my FP4. Both are popular smartphones in Germany but Fairphone is more internationally oriented. If you can wait a year you might wanna check the successor Shiftmu [2]

[1] https://shop.shiftphones.com/shift6mq.html

[2] https://shop.shiftphones.com/shiftmu.html

>>Martij+Ta
What makes the SDM845 more power efficient than the SoC in PPP (RK3399s?)?

>>Fnoord+tq1
I can navigate and parse the webshop and website, but thanks.

Was more curious about reviews and user experiences.

>>bluGil+k2
Dunno about others, but the Librem 5 is similarly easy (and IMO even easier when you want to use the internal memory).

>>flatbu+wv2
I imagine the 10 nm process (compared to the 28nm process of the RK3399s) probably is the biggest efficiency advantage of the SD8M45.