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>>todsac+(OP)
Unless PINE64 changes course hard, I think this will be the moment they died, so to say. They may keep making SBCs etc alongside other vendors but the phones/tablets/laptops/watches/etc would continue being novelties and realistically majority e-waste. Really quite sad. If I'd name one single person in the FLOSS community who's done the most good for mobile open source, it'd be OP. Thank you so much for your service, work, and patience up until now.

I fail to understand the reasoning of PINE64 on stuff like this recently. It's like they became a spiritually fundamentally different company. Can't see how this is supposed to make them money either.

> Now I can just focus on making postmarketOS work better. On the PINE64 hardware, and all the many other devices supported by postmarketOS

...Maybe not so terrible after all. For a while there I almost thought pmOS was

>>3np+he
I hope PINE64 doesn't fail, they did great before and I think they could continue being great.

luckily postmarketOS existed before the PinePhone and can easily exist after, the pine devices isn't even the majority of devices we support.

>>Martij+fi
AFAIK the pine devices are the only ones you support that are not a big pain to install. I have a few old android phones that you "support", but when I looked at what I had to do to install I decided it was too much effort. Pine devices claimed to be easier because you just throw in a SD card and go (of course the fact that the new ones are not this is why you left)

>>bluGil+zk
I would like the process for android phones with postmarketOS to be easier. In the end for a lot of these devices you have to work around vendor weirdness.

Luckily it seems like SHIFT Phones is actually improving the situation, they actually have one of their developers helping out with the kernel development and the device is not terribly hard to get postmarketOS on and I think it'll only get easier to dual boot that device in the future. Sadly the SHIFT 6mq that is supported is also not nearly as cheap as a PinePhone. Hopefully we can get similar levels of support on their cheaper mediatek devices.

>>Martij+gn
Damn, somehow SHiFT phones have been flying completely under my radar. The SHiFT 6mq looks amazing if it'd be feasible to get pmOS running on it. A quick search yield a lot of results, all in German.

Do you think it's realistic to expect the power situation to be(come) better than it is on the PPP today?

>>3np+5p
I think it already is better than the PPP. Also the SDM845 is very very fast and a lot more power efficient compared to the current pine64 offerings.

A few postmarketOS developers are working on improving the support for the SHIFT hardware and it seems to be going great.

>>Martij+8t
What makes the SDM845 more power efficient than the SoC in PPP (RK3399s?)?

>>flatbu+LN2
I imagine the 10 nm process (compared to the 28nm process of the RK3399s) probably is the biggest efficiency advantage of the SD8M45.